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THIS IS THE MEADOWS PLACE, UH, CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL SESSION.IT IS TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12TH, 2023, AND IT IS 6:00 PM WE ARE AT CITY PLACE.
UH, CITY MEADOWS PLACE, CITY HALL ONE, TROY DRIVE, MEADOWS PLACE, TEXAS.
ITEM A IS CALLED TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCED THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT.
WE HAVE, UH, EVERYBODY HERE, BUT, UH, UM, TIA, UH, SO WE HAVE A QUORUM WITH, UH, KELLY HERE WHO SNUCK IN.
UH, SO WITH THAT WE MOVE ON, UH, TO ITEM B, WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION, AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE A LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY OF MEADOWS PLACE AND BEECHNUT, F-E-C-L-L-C FOR A DOG PARK LOCATED ON DORRANCE LANE.
UM, WE HAVE THE OUTLINE OF THE PROPERTY THERE, AND, UH, I THINK, UH, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE THE DOG PARK IS.
THIS HAS COME UP BECAUSE THE ROOM IS LEAVING AT THE END OF THE MONTH, AND IF SOMETHING DOESN'T HAPPEN, THEY'RE GONNA SHUT THIS DOG PARK DOWN IN ALL LIKELIHOOD 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA RUN THE EXPENSES TO KEEP IT OPEN AND TO MANAGE IT.
WE HAVE AN OPTION OF DOING IT FOR THE COUNCIL FOR A, UH, DOLLAR A YEAR, LEASE IT FOR A DOLLAR A YEAR FOR 99 YEARS.
BUT THAT INCLUDES MAINTENANCE OF, UH, OF THE PARK.
UM, AND AS I SENT OUT, UH, IT INCLUDES, UM, WEEKLY WASTE PICKUP AND, AND SANITIZING THE PARK.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AFTER IT FROM THAT AREA.
UH, THE COSTS ARE, UH, APPROXIMATELY $17,700 ANNUALLY.
UM, WELL THERE WILL BE, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS, A LITTLE BIT, UH, ELECTRICAL, UM, SOME WATER COSTS, UH, THAT WE USE.
AND, UH, IF WE CHOOSE TO RUN CAMERAS THIS YEAR, WE'LL HAVE CAMERAS.
THIS COULD, UH, ALL TURN AROUND TOMORROW IF SOMEBODY WALKS IN AND WANTS TO OFFER THEM A CONTRACT FOR ALL THAT PROPERTY AND BUILD.
SO, I'M SORRY, YOU'LL GET CHANCE TO SPEAK.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE TO DECIDE, COUNSEL, DO WE WANT PAY FOR THE DOG PARK? DO WE WANNA PICK IT UP AND OFFER THEM A CONTRACT? THAT'S MY SUGGESTION THAT WE DO.
I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO LET AN AMENITY THAT EVERYBODY AND THEIR BROTHER, INCLUDING GROCERY STORES ARE PUTTING IN, UH, FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS AND, AND, UH, OUR CASE RESIDENTS.
SO, SO I NEED A MOTION TO FUND THE DOG PARK OR SAY NO, I QUESTION.
DO WE KNOW WE CAN GET A LEASE FOR, IS THAT AN ASSUMPTION OR IS THAT SOMETHING, 'CAUSE PART OF WHAT I REMEMBER OUR LAST DISCUSSION WAS, OR MAYBE IT WAS THE EMAIL, UM, ABOUT FOLLOW UP.
AND THAT WAS IF WE OFFERED A DOLLAR A YEAR LEASE, WE WOULD NEED TO DROP A CONTRACT OR WE WOULD HAVE TO BASICALLY HAVE OUR LAWYER DROP AN AGREEMENT TO SEE IF THAT WORKS.
IF THE ANSWER'S NO, THEN MY SUPPORT OF ANY DOG PARK WOULD GO AWAY.
'CAUSE I, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA BUY IT.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR IT.
SO THAT'S REALLY, I GUESS THE BREAK IT INTO PARTS OF THE DISCUSSION.
IF WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE CAN GET IT FOR A DOLLAR, THEN THAT, THAT KIND OF SETS THE, SETS IT BACK.
WELL, IT IS MY ASSUMPTION SINCE I'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
THEY, THERE WAS, BECAUSE THEY HAD NOTHING TO LOOK AT EITHER.
UM, THEY KIND OF IN THE SAME BOAT.
SO WE'RE ALL RIGHT NOW IN A LIMBO.
BUT YES, I WOULD, I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO UNDER THE ASSUMPTIONS SINCE THEY SAID OKAY.
THAT IF WE PRESENT THEM WITH A CONTRACT THAT I'VE JUST STIPULATED, HOWEVER, IN LEGALESE, THE ANSWER'S YES.
WHAT'S THE OUT CLAUSE? 30 DAYS FOR BOTH PARTIES.
SO WE COULD GO SPEND MONEY ON LIGHTS, CAMERAS, EVERYTHING, AND THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND GIVE US 30 DAYS AND THAT'S WASTED COST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I'LL JUST PUT IT OUT THERE AT THIS POINT WITH NOT KNOWING, WITH NOT GIVING THE PUBLIC ANY CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS RIGHT NOW? I'M A NO.
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THEY'VE GO, THIS IS ALL CHANGED OVER WITH BRIM ON DECEMBER 31ST.SO DO YOU WANT TO, I MEAN, IF COUNSEL DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, DO YOU WANNA LET THE PUBLIC WEIGH IN? CERTAINLY.
DO YOU, I I'VE GOT A A QUICK COMMENT.
UM, I, I ASKED A A LOT OF MY FRIENDS AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHO USES THE DOG PARK? AND I HAVE ONE FRIEND THAT DOES.
SHE USES IT ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY.
UM, AND SO I TALKED TO HER TODAY AND JUST ASKED, HEY, WHAT'S WHAT'S YOUR OPINION OF THIS, OF, OF THE MEETING TONIGHT? AND, UH, SHE SAID, I THINK YOU'D BE SURPRISED, YES, I USE IT.
YES, I LOVE IT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE IT.
UM, AND AGAIN, I WAS SURPRISED.
ONE OF THE THINGS SHE SAID WAS, EVERY TIME SHE'S UP THERE, VERY FEW RESIDENTS USE IT.
IT'S ALMOST ALL NON-RESIDENTS.
UM, HER VET AND DOG TRAINERS DO NOT RECOMMEND USING, UH, THE, USING DOG PARKS FOR THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T BECAUSE OF SPREAD OF DISEASE AND DOG FIGHTS, WHICH HONESTLY HAPPENED A LOT MORE THAN I THOUGHT THEY DID, UH, AT THE SUGARLAND DOG PARK.
EVERY, EVERY SINGLE TIME SHE'S BEEN, THERE'S BEEN AT LEAST A MINOR FIGHT BETWEEN DOGS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, OWNERS GET INVOLVED AND IT'S AN ISSUE.
UM, AND OF COURSE THE, THE ISSUE OF DOGS BEING DUMPED THERE, WHICH WE'VE HAD QUITE A BIT OF, UM, ONLY ONE RECENT ONE WHERE I FEEL LIKE ANIMAL CONTROL CAME VERY QUICKLY SINCE IT WENT PUBLIC VERY QUICKLY.
UH, THE POST BEING SHARED HUNDREDS OF TIMES.
UH, SO WELL, BY THE TIME IT WENT PUBLIC, UH, THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY.
AND, AND THAT WAS JUST AN FYI THAT WAS ONE OF THE VERY FEW TIMES, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE VERY FEW TIMES, JUST TO GET THIS OFF MY CHEST, THAT THEY CALLED THE ANIMAL CONTROL OR THE PER PER PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THE POLICE OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BEFORE THEY POSTED IT ON FACEBOOK, IF THEY DO IT THAT WAY, WOULD HELP US A GREAT DEAL.
ANIMAL CONTROL, RESPONDED VERY QUICKLY AND TOOK CARE OF A VERY, VERY BIG PROBLEM FOR US.
THAT ALWAYS HASN'T BEEN THE CASE THOUGH.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE TOUGH PART.
NO, WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT STORIES.
WELL, I'LL SAY THAT I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH ANIMAL CONTROL RIGHT NOW.
AND WE WORK HARD TO MAINTAIN THAT.
SO I, I WOULD HOPE THAT ANYBODY CALLING ANIMAL CONTROL WILL GET FROM MEADOW'S PLACE WILL GET A GOOD RESPONSE.
ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS? I WOULD, IF IT WASN'T, IF IT WASN'T CLEAR.
MY, MY UH ANSWER IS NO, I DON'T WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
I WENT UP AND TALKED TO SOMEBODY THAT USES IT ALMOST THE EVERY FOUR DAYS A WEEK AS WELL.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO THAT.
THERE'S A VIEW, VERY DEDICATED PEOPLE THAT DO.
VERIO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET UP AND ADDRESS YOUR COUNSEL? VERIO ROMANO.
I LIVE IN 1 1 8 2 3 BLOOMINGTON LANE.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN USING THE DOG PARK WITH MY PREVIOUS DOG A LOT.
SHE'S VERY SCARED SO SHE DOESN'T GO.
BUT I DON'T WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE IT.
UM, I'M DISAPPOINTED ON THE OPTION THAT WE ARE, I'M LISTENING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I DON'T CARE IF ANOTHER PERSON FROM OTHER PLACE IS COMING TO OUR CITY.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A PLACE WHERE WE WELCOME PEOPLE.
SO THAT CONCEPT IS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT ME HERE.
MY WIFE AND SISTER-IN-LAW, THEY ARE IN ARGENTINA, SO THEY COULDN'T BE.
SO I REPRESENTING ALL OF THEM.
UM, I THINK, UH, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT JUST MONEY THAT WE NEED TO WORRY, BUT THE BENEFIT OF OUR EVERYBODY, UH, WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST THING IN THE CITY THAT HAVE BEEN THE PRIVATE FOR A BASKETBALL COURT, SOCCER PLAY, FOOTBALL PLAYS, BECAUSE WE USE THE SAME EXCUSE OTHER PEOPLE ARE COMING TO OUR TOWN.
THIS IS A TOWN THAT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY, BIG CITIES PEOPLE IS COMING THROUGH OUR TOWN.
ARE WE GOING TO STOP ASKING A STARBUCKS TO LEAVE BECAUSE PEOPLE USE IT AND IT DOESN'T BELONG TO OUR CITY? I DON'T THINK SO.
SO BEFORE YOU CONSIDER ONLY PT THINGS, THINK ON THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO USE IT, PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT GO RIGHT NOW BECAUSE COLO WHATEVER, BUT IS SOMETHING THAT GOOD CITIES HAVE A PLACE NOT ONLY FOR PEOPLE LIKE WE HAVE IN OUR PARK, BUT ALSO A PLACE FOR OUR FAMILY MEMBERS THAT
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ARE NOT HUMANS.SO, UH, THERE'S SO MUCH TO SAY BECAUSE I'M ALREADY HERE THREE PEOPLE VOTING.
SO PROBABLY YOU ALREADY HAVE YOUR MINDSET.
REAL QUICK, CHARLIE, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING.
AND RIGHT NOW I'M MORE AGAINST IT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY ENGAGED OUR CITIZENS.
IT KIND OF CAME UP REALLY FAST.
UM, I WON'T SAY MY MA MIND IS MADE UP, BUT I AM A NO RIGHT NOW BASED ON THE INPUT THAT I'VE RECEIVED SO FAR.
UM, WHETHER WE, WE HOLD ANOTHER MEETING IN JANUARY WITH OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE PUBLIC INPUT, MAY MAY CHANGE MY MIND, BUT THANK YOU.
ONE ONE AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.
ONE 1-842-MULHOLLAND SINCE 1975.
NOW I GO TO THE DOG PARK DAILY, SOMETIMES TWICE A DAY IN THE MORNING AND AT NIGHT.
FIRST OF ALL, WHO OWNS THIS PROPERTY ANYWAY? IS THAT THE CITY THAT OWNS THE, THE TEXAS, UH, DIRECT AUTO? NO.
WHO OWNS IT? THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE BACK HALF OF THE OLD, UM, VILLE MALL AND THE MOVIE THEATER.
UM, THE CONS OWN THAT PROPERTY.
AND, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT LEASED IT TO TEXAS DIRECT AUTO, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO TEXAS DIRECT AUTOS UNDERSTAND LEASE ENDS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, RIGHT? WELL, TEXAS DIRECT AUTO'S DEFUNCT, THEY'RE OUTTA BUSINESS.
IT'S A COMPANY CALLED VARUN, WHICH OKAY.
AND TOOK THEM OVER AND THEIR, THEIR LEASE IS UP AT THE END OF THE YEAR, AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO SHOULDN'T WE CALL THE OWNERS IN HERE AND SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO LEASE IT FOR? I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
THEY'RE WILLING TO LEASE IT TO US FOR A DOLLAR A YEAR.
OH, THE, OH, THE, THE OWNERS ARE LEASING IT TO US FOR A DOLLAR A YEAR.
OH, I THOUGHT WE WERE LEASING IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE FOR A DOLLAR A YEAR.
I WAS GONNA NEVER USE IT FOR $2 A YEAR.
NOW A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOLVED.
NUMBER ONE, I'D LIKE TO SEE A BIG SIGN PUT UP AT THE DOG PARK SAYING DUMPING OF DOGS IS ILLEGAL IN MIDDLES PLACE, SUBJECT TO A $500 FINE OR SOME KIND OF FINE.
I THINK, ISN'T THAT AN ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW? THAT THERE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS IF YOU DUMP YOUR DOGS THERE IS A FINE, I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT WITHOUT SAYING IT.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT THIS IS, IT IS, BUT I CAN'T WELL, THAT SIGN NEEDS TO BE, NEEDS TO BE PUT UP THERE TO KEEP THESE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME DOWN TO THE DOG PARK ARE NOT MEADOWS PLACE RESIDENTS.
AND THEY, WELL, IF WE DUMP OUR DOGS HERE, SOMEBODY WILL TAKE CARE OF 'EM.
IF WE PUT UP A SIGN THAT SAYS, NOPE, IT'S ILLEGAL.
'CAUSE MOST OF 'EM DON'T KNOW IT'S ILLEGAL RIGHT NOW.
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YOU KNOW, I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE MEADOWS PLACE ORDINANCE, BUT, UH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
IF WE CHOOSE TO GO, WELL, WE NEED TO PUT UP A SIGN TO AND THEN ENFORCE IT ANYWAY.
CAMERA OR A, AND A CAMERA NEED A CAMERA DOWN THERE TOO TO, TO ENFORCE IT.
AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO SEE THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE DOG PARK WILL PAY FOR THE DOG PARK.
I LIKE TO SEE CARD KEY ACCESS, JUST LIKE WE DO AT THE, UH, AT THE UM, UH, AT THE TENNIS COURTS AND THE PEOPLE WHO USE IT NEED TO PAY.
YOU'RE RUNNING OUTTA TIME, MIKE.
WELL, I, IT IS A GOOD, IT IS A GOOD THING FOR MY DOGS AND I KNOW MY DOGS AGREE WITH ME, BUT, UH, SO, BUT WE NEED IT AND IT'S AN AMENITY THAT, UH, THAT WE CAN ALL USE.
BUT I WANT, I DON'T WANT THE TAXPAYERS TO HAVE TO PAY FOR ANYTHING EITHER.
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THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.SO YOU WANT TO HAVE AN AMENITY AND NOBODY PAY FOR IT EXCEPT THOSE
YOU CAN GO UP THERE AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN YOU CAN NOW, NOW.
I LIVE JUST OVER, I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE IN HUNTINGTON VILLAGE.
I MEAN, A LOT OF US THAT COME HERE FROM WITHOUT WOULDN'T MIND PAYING FOR, YOU KNOW, A CARD KEY.
UM, I MEAN IT'S HOW THEY, THEY RAN THE POOLS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A LONG TIME.
IT'S STILL DUE THE COMMUNITY POOL.
YOU GO DOWN TO THE, UH, HOA OFFICE AND PAY, UH, A FEE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE POOL SEASON AND THEN YOU GET ACCESS TO THE POOL WITH YOUR TAG.
AND SO SPEAKING AS AN OUTSIDER, I WOULD NOT MIND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I WOULD SAY THAT I AGREE WITH MIKE.
UM, AND I WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, OBJECT, YOU KNOW, THE SIGN PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE OUT THERE, UM, FOR DUMPING DOGS BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH TRYING TO HELP THOSE DOGS THAT GET DUMPED.
UH, ONE OF THE OTHER GENTLEMEN HERE, MR. EARNEST, ENDED UP AT, UH, WAS YOU, YOU TOOK HER HOME FROM, FROM A DUMP FROM ONE ONE OF THE DUMPS.
DIDN'T EARNEST WHAT YOU SHE WAS, SHE, SHE WAS DUMPED THERE, WASN'T SHE? YEAH.
SO I MEAN, SO IT'S NOT LIKE, SO WE DO TRY AND HELP.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ALSO NOT ON UNAWARE OF IT.
AND IT IS, WE CREATE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH.
AND I WOULDN'T MIND THE CAMERA IDEA THAT, UH, MR. MERTON'S PUT UP BECAUSE IT WOULD HELP CATCH THE PEOPLE THAT DUMPED THE DOGS.
WELL, YOU GOTTA ALSO REALIZE THAT CITY MEADOWS PLACE HAS TRIED TO GET THE PREVIOUS FOLKS TO DO THINGS.
BUT THEY, THEY WERE AT DIFFERENT ODDS THAN, OR AT ODDS WITH US.
AND THAT CROSS PURPOSES THEY WERE NOT TRYING TO LOOK AT FOR CITY OF MEADOW'S PLACE.
THEY WERE TRYING TO LESSEN LIABILITY FOR THEM.
UH, I NOTICED WHEN THEY TOOK OVER THINGS WENT SOUTH, IT'S LIKE THEY WERE A DIFFERENT APATHETIC.
I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T REALLY CARE.
I MEAN, THE MOWING GOT DONE, BUT BEYOND THAT, IT WAS MOW MOWING GOT DONE AFTER WE LAID ON 'EM.
AND OFTEN, SO YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD.
THE PREVIOUS OWNERS WITH TEXAS DIRECT AUTO CARED, THESE FOLKS WERE APATHETIC AND THEY GOT STUCK WITH IT.
YEAH, WE HAVE NEW OWNERSHIP FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND THINGS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER AND WE CAN HAVE GOOD CONVERSATIONS, BUT THAT'S IT.
WELL, LIKE I SAID, I WOULDN'T MIND, MY PERSONALLY WOULD NOT MIND PAYING FOR LIKE A KEY CARD KIND OF THING.
SO, AND, AND I'M PRETTY SURE MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT GO PROBABLY WOULDN'T MIND SOME SORT OF SMALL, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF FEE TO USE THE PARK, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT KEEPS THE PARK SAFE, IT HELPS PAY FOR THE PARK, YOU KNOW.
APPRECIATE YOU GETTING UP AND SAYING SOMETHING.
I THINK IT WOULD TAKE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE TO MAKE UP A $18,000.
WELL, LET'S SEE, YEARLY EXPENSE AND, AND UH, AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE TIME.
OUR PD WOULD HAVE TO SPEND THEIR INVESTIGATING DIFFERENT CRIMES OR, OR THERE'S A LOT MORE PERSONNEL MATTER THAT'S GOING TO TAKE UP SOME TIME THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED YET.
UM, IF, IF IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY, I THINK IF WE OWN THE PROPERTY, BUT A LEASE WITH A 30 DAY OUT, AND ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE PUTTING CAMERAS AND FENCE, YOU KNOW, EXTRA FENCES AND KEY CARD ACCESS, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE COULD BE WASTING IF THEY, I WOULD SELL THE PROPERTY.
I WOULD CONCUR WITH THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
IT JUST MAKES ME NERVOUS TO SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO UTILIZE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CRAP SHOOT.
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JUST SAY IT'S GONE ON JANUARY ONE.WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS? I'M GETTING READY TO OFFER THAT UP.
ANYBODY, OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA CALL FROM, UH, WE GOT, UH, MY NAME'S TOM LLOYD.
I'M AT, UH, 1, 1 4, 1 5 DORRANCE.
I AM A, OBVIOUSLY A RESIDENT AND A DOG OWNER AND I DO USE THAT PARK.
UH, AND IT'S NICE AND CLOSE TO MY HOUSE, BUT I ACTUALLY PREFER SUGAR LAND BECAUSE THIS PARK IS, HAS BEEN RECENTLY NEGLECTED, TOO SMALL.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT AS A FEATURE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, WHEN I FIRST MOVED DOWN HERE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, IT WAS WELL KEPT AND I ENJOYED TAKING THE DOG THERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT KEPT, UM, IF WE CAN MAKE IT WORK FOR THE CITY AND MAKE IT WORK FOR THE RESIDENTS.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
I JUST WANTED TO GET ON RECORD THAT I LIKE IT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT, BUT IT'S UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S CLOSE TO MY HOUSE, I DON'T LIKE USING IT.
IT'S, IT'S NOT PLEASANT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN NEGLECTED.
LET ME ASK YOU ONE QUESTION 'CAUSE I, I DROP IN THERE JUST TO VISIT WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING THERE OR TAKING THEIR DOGS AND THAT'S HOW, HOW MUCH TIME I SPEND THERE.
DO YOU FEEL THAT THAT DOG, THAT PART WOULD BE MORE UTILIZED THAN IT IS NOW IF IT WERE IN BETTER SHAPE? UH, WELL, NOT IMMEDIATELY.
I MEAN, WORD OF MOUTH GETS OUT.
I, WHEN I FIRST MOVED DOWN HERE, THERE WAS A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAT WENT THERE AND THERE WAS A REGULAR CROWD AT DINNERTIME.
UM, RIGHT NOW WHEN I COME HOME FROM WORK AND I WANT TO TAKE MY DOG THERE, THE LIGHTS AREN'T ON.
NO ONE WANTS TO SIT THERE IN THE DARK.
ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR, UM, IT'S, IT IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO, HEY, LET'S SIT AROUND AND CHAT.
UH, WHEN I FIRST MOVED DOWN HERE, I, I MET A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUTSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY GOING TO THAT DOG PARK AND JUST SOCIALIZING.
AND UH, UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT THAT CASE ANYMORE.
IT'S NOT VERY WELCOMING, IS IT? AGAIN, I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE CITY'S NOT INVOLVED IN THAT.
I, THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.
I THINK THAT'S IT FROM THE AUDIENCE.
WELL, WHAT I'LL PUT OUT THERE IS I'M NOT CONVINCED I WANNA SPEND MONEY ON THIS RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD COST US A LOT OF MONEY IN LEGAL TO GET GRADY'S TEAM TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.
SO WOULD COUNSEL WANT TO OFFER UP A COMPROMISE WHERE WE GET GRADY TO PREPARE SOMETHING WITH A ONE YEAR LEASE, NOT A 30 DAY OUT.
IT'S GOTTA BE ONE YEAR, THE DOLLAR DOESN'T MATTER TO US ANYWAY, AND CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION, ALLOWING THE PUBLIC A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO WEIGH INTO THE CONVERSATION ON WHETHER I'LL PUT 25,000 A YEAR BECAUSE EIGHTEEN'S THE BARE MINIMUM.
WE'RE LOOKING AT 25,000 A YEAR WOULD BE A REASONABLE EXPENSE TO THE CITY TO MAINTAIN THIS DOG PARK.
SO I'M HERE IN A MOTION FOR A ONE YEAR CONTRACT WITH, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL MAKE IT A MOTION AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF I GET A SECOND UP TO $25,000.
NOT, NO, I'M NOT AUTHORIZING THE MONEY NOW AUTHORIZING THE CONTRACT COUNTY ATTORNEY OR THE CITY ATTORNEY CONTRACT TO DEVELOP THE AGREEMENT FOR A DOLLAR A YEAR.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'LL ACCEPT THAT FOR A DOLLAR A YEAR, ONE YEAR TERMS. THAT WAY WE KNOW GOING IN, WE'VE GOT IT FOR AT LEAST A YEAR.
AND IF COUNCIL DOESN'T WANNA DO ONE YEAR, MAYBE WE MAKE THE FIRST TERM THREE YEARS WITH ONE YEAR FOLLOW UPS.
THAT GIVES US SOME ASSURANCE IN SPENDING THE UPFRONT MONEY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LONGER WE MAKE THAT FIRST TERM, THE LESS LIKELY THEY ARE TO SIGN.
SO I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT IN THE REALM OF WHERE THEY MIGHT SIGN IT.
UM, THE MAYOR'S CONVINCED THEY'LL DO A DOLLAR A YEAR.
I THINK THE MOTHER WOULD, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE SON WILL, AND WHEN IT COMES TIME TO SIGN, I THINK IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO GET THAT SIGNATURE.
I, ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THE FAMILY SAID YES TO ME OVER A DOLLAR A YEAR IF WE PUT IT THAT WAY.
SO, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT I HEAR YOU'RE SAYING IS A
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CONTRACT FOR A YEAR PERIOD, THAT'S WHAT I, NO, 30 DAY OUT, IT'S A LEASE FOR A YEAR.AND FROM DATE TO DATE WE CAN GO PLAY IN IT.
I, I THINK YOU'D, I THINK YOU'D WANT TO HAVE SOME RENEWAL CLAUSE THAT ALLOWS US TO RENEW, BUT AT, FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR, WHATEVER I, WE WE'RE NOT COMMITTING.
I THINK THE POINT IS THIS IS, THIS IS A CLOSE FOR BOTH OF US.
ONE YEAR WE USE IT AT THE END OF THAT YEAR, WE EVALUATE OUR COSTS.
WE THEY EVALUATE THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO SELL IT OR DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT.
BUT I THINK IF WE HAVE, WHEN WE'RE DRAWING IT UP, I THINK IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS US TO EXTEND THAT PERIOD OUT MULTIPLE YEARS OR EACH YEAR FOR A YEAR, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.
SO THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY.
UH, AND THEY'LL HAVE THAT CHOICE.
AND I THINK THE CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY IS ONE, DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A DOG PARK? AND THEN TWO, DO WE WANT TO KEEP IT THERE OR DO WE WANT TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO LOCATE, LOCATE IT INTO OUR CENTRAL PARK THAT WOULD BE MOVING IT IN ONTO OUR PROPERTY SOMEWHERE.
IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY, BUT I THINK IT CENTRALIZES IT MORE.
I THINK YOU'D GET MORE USAGE OUT OF IT IF IT WAS CENTRAL TO THE PARK.
OBVIOUSLY SOME PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO DRIVE TRAVEL FURTHER, SOME WILL TRAVEL LESS, SOME PROTECTED DOGS
BUT I THINK IT, IT, THE CONVERSATION THEN COULD BECOMES IS A DOG PARK IMPORTANT TO THE CITIZENS? AND THEN WHERE DO WE WANT IT ULTIMATELY? AND MAYBE THE LEASE OPTIONS LAST FOR A YEAR OR TWO AND WE, AND THEN WE CAN GET A PLAN TOGETHER, TOGETHER TO CENTRALIZE IT, GIVE US TIME TO PUT TOGETHER AS WELL AS THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT.
UH, TO ME THAT'S, I I WOULD AGREE WITH RICK.
I WOULD SECOND HIS MOTION BECAUSE I THINK THAT YEAR GIVES US OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE EXISTING WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, GET SOME ADDITIONAL INTEREST IN IT BY, BY OWNING IT AND MANAGING IT A LITTLE BETTER THAN IT HAS BEEN.
AND THEN GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO PULL THE RESIDENTS AND SAY, HEY, IS THIS, IS THIS AMENITY? AND IT, I LIKE THE IDEA OF MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED.
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE AT, I'M AT THE OTHER END OF THE CITY.
I, WHEN WE FIRST GOT HERE, WE USED THE PARK, UH, SIMILAR.
I, WE, WE SAW A LOT MORE ACTIVITY.
UM, I DROVE UP THERE TONIGHT, THE LIGHTS ARE NOT WORKING IN THE CORNER.
UH, BUT I DID SEE SOMEBODY WALKING TO THE PARK.
I SAW TWO OTHER CARS THERE, PEOPLE WITH DOGS.
SO, UM, I, I DO THINK THERE'S A, UH, A NEED FOR IT.
UH, AND I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME COMMENTS TONIGHT THAT SAID, HEY, LET'S AT LEAST KEEP OUR OPTIONS OPEN.
SO I, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF DOING THAT.
O ONE OTHER COST, UH, QUESTION E EVERYONE WOULD BE IN FAVOR I IMAGINE OF PUTTING CAMERAS IN THERE.
UH, WHAT KIND OF COST ARE WE LOOKING AT? ANY BALLPARK FIGURES TO ADD CAMERAS? 'CAUSE AGAIN, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE IN THE FIRST YEAR AND THAT'S JUST ANOTHER EXPENSE.
WE MAY AND REMEMBER THAT THOSE CAN COME WITH US THOUGH.
AND IF WE ARE GONNA DO A CONTRACT, I THINK, UH, WE'D WANNA PUT THAT INTO THE CONTRACT SAYING ANY IMPROVEMENTS WE HAVE, ELECTRONICS AND CAMERAS, ET CETERA.
WHEN, WHEN THE LEASE IS DONE, I FIGURE YOU CAN PROBABLY FACTOR IN 10,000 FOR THE POWER AND CONNECTION FOR THE CAMERA IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR IT REMOTELY.
WELL, IN THE FIRST YEAR WE'D BE LOOKING AT 25,000, 25 PLUS ANOTHER 10.
SO 30, 40,000 IN ONE YEAR POSSIBLY IF, IF WE WANTED TO PUT THE CAMERA IN RIGHT AWAY, WHICH I, I DON'T WANT IT'S BEEN WITHOUT A CAMERA FOR A LONG TIME.
IT MAKES IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO ADDRESS THE, THE DUMPING ISSUE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION IS, DO WE NEED THAT IMMEDIATELY? I, I THINK IT'S A TWO PART QUESTION.
FIRST OF ALL, DO WE NEED IT IMMEDIATELY? SECOND OF ALL, WHAT ARE OUR EXPECTATIONS ON WHAT THOSE CAMERAS ARE GOING TO DO FOR US? RIGHT? PD IS GONNA HAVE TO FOLLOW UP.
AND WHEN THEY DO, I THINK PD NEEDS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF THEIR RESOURCES AND FOLLOWING UP WITH SOME OF THE INVESTIGATIONS.
WHAT TO SET THOSE EXPECTATIONS.
WELL, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT, I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT, UM, IS GOING TO BE EXPECTED WITH THESE CAMERAS.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A, A BAD QUESTION TO ASK.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS, STAFF OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF VISIBILITY ON STARTUP COSTS.
WE DO HAVE STANDARDS ON WHAT WE WOULD WANT THIS PARK TO LOOK LIKE.
SHOULD WE TAKE IT OVER? UM, NOT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT INSIDE MIGHT NEED TO BE REPAIRED, MAINTAINED, ET CETERA.
UM, WE HAVEN'T SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UH, INSIDE THAT DOG PARK TO, UH, TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO TO GET IT UP TO OUR STANDARD.
UM, BUT THERE IS ONE MORE THING I THINK THAT WOULD HELP THE CITY ATTORNEY HELP DRAFT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
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CAN SEE ON THE PHOTO UP THERE, THE LEFT IS FROM THE ORIGINAL 2011 RENDERING OF WHAT THEY PLANNED TO DO FOR A DOG PARK.UH, THE RIGHT IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DID, UM, THE, IF YOU NOTICE THE GREEN AREA BACK THERE, UH, OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN MAINTAINED IN MODE ALL THIS TIME, WE ASSUME BY BROOM.
UM, AND SO IF THE CITY ONLY TAKES OVER THE AREA THAT IS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DOG PARK ITSELF AS WELL AS THE PARKING AREA, AND WE ACTUALLY LIST THAT OUT IN THE AGREEMENT, THEN OBVIOUSLY IT'D BE THE PROPERTY OWNER AT THE, THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF MAINTAINING THE REST OF THAT PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE THIS NEXT SHOT IS A SHOT OF, UM, IS FROM A GIS MAP.
AND THAT RED LINE AND THAT WHITE LINE ARE YOUR CITY LIMIT AND COUNTY, UH, LINES.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE CITY IS, UH, AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE CITY OF HOUSTON AND HARRIS COUNTY STARTS THERE.
AND SO THAT AREA BACK THERE IS ACTUALLY OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS.
UM, SO IT WOULD BE MY ENCOURAGEMENT THAT TO DRAFT UP THAT AGREEMENT THAT GRADY BE GIVEN THE DIRECTION TO GO AHEAD AND ONLY CARVE OUT THE SECTION WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DOG PARK IN THE PARKING LOT ITSELF.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT, THAT CLEAR IN THE AGREEMENT AS PART OF THE CONTRACT AS PART.
WELL I THINK FROM COLLEEN'S POINT OF VIEW, WOULD YOU WANT JUST THE EXISTING PIECE OR YOU WANT THE ABILITY TO ADJUST FENCE AND DO SOMETHING WITH THE BACKSIDE ASKING HAVE THE OPTION, ADD MORE AMENITIES AND MORE PARK SPACE.
OF COURSE, MY ANSWER'S ALWAYS GONNA BE, YES, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MORE PARK SPACE AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AND FUNDING TO SUPPORT THAT.
BUT AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DOG PARK AREA AND, AND UM, I THINK THAT THAT IS, UH, WHERE WE NEED TO KEEP OUR FOCUS ON, UM, RIGHT NOW.
WANNA TALK ABOUT A BUREAUCRATIC ANSWER,
I'M ALL EXCITED ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO AND THEN YOU TELL ME NO, I'M NOT DOING IT.
UM, COLLEEN, LET ME ASK YOU, SINCE YOU'RE STANDING THERE IN FRONT OF THE MICROPHONE, RICK HAS PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE, WHICH TO ME GETS A BALL ROLLING IF WE DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND TRY TO LEASE THIS DOG PARK FOR A YEAR.
AND I SEE HIS PROTECTING THE CITY, UH, WHICH WAS KURT'S CONCERN.
WHY WOULD WE SPEND MONEY IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY TO HAVE 'EM CANCEL US OUT IN MARCH? UH, BUT IF WE DECIDE THAT WE WANT A DOG PARK AND TO HAVE AN AMENITY AND AS WHO WAS, ITS SAID, UH, GOOD CITIES HAVE DOG PARKS, UM, THEN, AND I AGREE WITH THAT.
I DO THINK THAT'S AN AMENITY THAT WE NEED TO OFFER UP.
BUT RICK HAS KIND OF SAID, SUGGESTED IF I'M, DON'T LET ME PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT I THINK YOU'RE SUGGESTED THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT RELOCATING THAT TO A MORE CENTRALIZED AREA.
I WOULD LIKE INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS.
WE HAVEN'T DONE A PARKS MASTER PLAN IN YEARS.
COLLEEN'S PRETTY MUCH COMPLETED THE OLD ONE.
UM, MAYBE WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER VISIONING SESSION.
WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER MASTER PLAN.
UM, AND THE THE ONE YEAR GIVES US TIME TO DO THAT.
AND 'CAUSE IT'LL TAKE EVERY BIT OF THAT.
SO WHAT WHAT I HAVE PROPOSED IS GET THE PAPERWORK DONE, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR THE MONEY.
AND SO I WOULD SAY IN THE NEXT MONTH WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IN THE INTERIM NOW TO RUN IT FOR A YEAR, WHETHER THAT INCLUDES THE CAMERAS OR NOT.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR THIS TODAY.
THIS IS IN THE NEXT MONTH FOR WHEN YOU GUYS COME BACK FOR THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, ASSUMING THE CON SIGNED THE AGREEMENT.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE WILL MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON WHETHER THE CITY SIGNS THE AGREEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THEY'VE NOT BEEN TALKING ABOUT A ONE YEAR LEASE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T OKAY.
SO AT WHAT POINT THEN IN YOUR MIND IS YOU VISION THIS VISIONING IN WHICH I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THOSE KIND OF MEETINGS GETTING THE PUBLIC INVOLVED.
AND IT WOULD, ARE YOU FOCUSING AT THIS ON JUST THE DOG
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PARK OR, 'CAUSE IT'S PART OF THAT'S, THAT'S A SIMPLE PROJECT TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT, BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A MASTER PLAN IN, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT DEAL.WELL, THE QUESTION IS DO WE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MORE DO WE NEED? AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GONNA HAVE TO RELY ON, ON THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO TELL US WHAT MORE DO WE NEED TO DO.
I MEAN, MOST OF THE POCKET PARKS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT THEY WILL NEED TO BE
AND, AND SO HOW DO WE START LOOKING AT THAT AND FACTORING IT INTO OUR CIP PLAN? UM, SO INSTEAD OF EXPANSION NECESSARILY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAINTENANCE UPKEEP AND REVISITING THINGS LIKE THE LAKE ITSELF.
AND, AND, AND MAYBE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE REC CENTER, IT'S BEEN REMODELED, BUT WHAT'S THE NEXT REMODEL LOOK LIKE? UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO JUST KIND OF WHAT IS OUR LONG-TERM VISION? AND I'M GONNA, AND AND SO WE'VE GOT SHORT-TERM QUESTIONS WE NEED ANSWERED.
ONE IS, WILL THE CONSIGN A ONE YEAR LEASE? AND THEN TWO, HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE WILLING TO PUT INTO THAT PARK KNOWING THAT IT COULD GO AWAY AFTER A YEAR.
AND THEN TWO, WHAT'S OUR LONG-TERM VISION? AND THEY, THOSE TWO CAN BE TWO SEPARATE PATHS.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A MOTION THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE OUR ATTORNEY DRAW UP A CONTRACT OF A ONE TERM LEASE THAT WOULD INCLUDE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN THERE.
AND IF WE GOT THOSE DOWN, WELL ONE YEAR LEASE FOR A DOLLAR WITH OPTION FOR BOTH.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU DON'T REALLY NEED A RENEWAL CLAUSE IN THERE BECAUSE NOPE.
IT'S A ONE YEAR LEASE AND YOU EITHER RENEW OR YOU DON'T AND THEY CAN COME UP WITH NEW TERMS OR THE CITY CAN COME UP WITH NEW TERMS ON THAT NEXT AGREEMENT.
COUNSEL, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO FOR THE BOUNDARIES? YOU WANNA OPTION AT ALL OR DO YOU JUST WANNA OPTION THE FRONT EXISTING PARK? I THINK FOR, IF IT WAS GONNA BE ONE YEAR, LET'S JUST STICK WITH THE PARK AND UH, GO FROM THERE.
AND ONE ITEM, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP BRINGING UP IS COST.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY RIGHT NOW.
I KNOW WE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THAT I, I FEEL LIKE OUR MONEY'S A LITTLE MORE IMPORTANT TO GO TO.
SO IT, IT'S TOUGH TO HEAR THESE FUNDS ADD UP WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXTRA.
AND JUST OPERATING THE EXISTING PARK, IF WE DON'T ADD THE GATE KEY OPTION, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE YOUR WATER COSTS, YOUR MOWING COSTS, ELECTRICITY, ELECTRICITY.
I MEAN, I THINK YOU CAN KEEP THOSE NUMBERS DOWN TO A REASONABLE NUMBER.
ADDING THE CAMERAS, ADDING STUFF LIKE THAT IS WHERE GONNA BE WHERE YOUR TRUE COSTS COME IN.
AND YOU KNOW, IF COUNCIL SAYS, YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT WE'RE NOT FUNDING IT THIS YEAR.
THAT'LL BE SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT WITH THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT.
BUT STAFF IS GONNA NEED SOME DIRECTION FOR THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT.
I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF ADDING THE CAMERA RIGHT NOW, KELLY WAS SHE, BUT STABBED ME.
UM, AND, AND THAT I'M LOOKING AT HOW DO WE GET INTO THIS FAIRLY CHEAPLY, KEEP THE AMENITY FOR THE STA OR FOR THE CITIZENS, BUT NOT EXPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TAXPAYER MONEY WHILE WE LOOK AT OUR OTHER OPTIONS.
IS IS ONE OPTION JUST TO VERBALLY SPEAK WITH THEM SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ANY ATTORNEY MONEY DRAFTING IT? THE MAYOR, THE MAYOR HAS SPOKEN TO THEM WELL WITH THE ONE YEAR, WITH THE, WITH UH, WITH NO 30 DAY OUT.
SO JUST DOING, I HAVE NOT, I'VE NOT TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THAT AT ALL.
I FEEL LIKE THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO HAVE.
SO WE KNOW WHETHER OR NOT TO SPEND WELL YEAH.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET WITH, UH, MS. CONN TOMORROW.
AND, AND SO YES, I AGREE KURT, THAT IT'D BE GOOD FOR THE MAYOR TO CALL THEM AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS.
THEY WANT A ONE YEAR ASSURANCE BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE GONNA BE SPENDING MONEY ON THIS.
AND IF THEY SAY, OH, ABSOLUTELY NOT, WE'RE DONE, THEN WE'RE
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DONE, THEN WE'RE DONE.UM, I KNOW THEY'VE GOT SOME THINGS GOING ON, BUT I DON'T, I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO I THINK THEY'RE KIND OF TRYING TO SHAKE THEMSELVES FROM THE BURDEN OF MAINTAINING THAT MM-HMM.
IT'S A WIN-WIN IF, IF THAT HAPPENS.
BUT AS FOR THE YEAR, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL TAKE IT OR NOT.
SO I, I CAN, UH, COUNSEL'S INSTRUCTION, GIVE THEM A CALL TOMORROW AND I'LL TALK TO MS. CON.
IT'S, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO, WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR BLESSING, PUT TOGETHER A CONTRACT THAT WILL, INSTEAD OF HAVING A TWO YEAR, UH, 30 DAY OUT, WILL JUST BE A ONE YEAR CONTRACT FROM DATE TO DATE.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I THINK YOU SHOULD PROBABLY PUT IN THE AGREEMENT IS ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE CITY PUTS OUT THERE, WE TAKE WITH US.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY ADD THAT INTO THE AGREEMENT.
WELL, WOULD YOU JOT MY SCRIPT DOWN WHILE SURE.
BECAUSE I'VE GOT A MEETING IN THE MORNING, TWO OR THREE OF 'EM BEFORE I GET IN? SURE, SURE.
WITH THAT, I THINK WHAT WRAPS UP THE, UH, ITEM A DOES IT NOT OR ITEM B? YES.
GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
I HAVE BEEN GOING TO THE DOG PARK SINCE THREE WEEKS BEFORE IT OPENED.
UM, I WAS THE TEST, THE TEST, I HAD THE TEST DOGS THAT MIKE WELCH USED, UH, WHEN HE WAS FIRST PUTTING THE THING IN.
HE WAS THE PRINCIPAL OWNER OF TEXAS DIRECT.
UH, I HAVE WORKED WITH THIS GENTLEMAN MANY YEARS AGO PRE COVID ABOUT PROBLEMS AND I APPRECIATE THE HELP.
THEN IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I OFFERED YOU A $5 BRIBE IF YOU WOULD START TRYING TO ANNEX PARK GLEN INTO MEADOWS AND YOU DID NOT DO IT.
UH, SO I, WE HAVE A PROBLEM THERE ALREADY, BUT I WANTED TO MENTION THAT YOU HAVE TWO AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIPS OVER HERE THAT COULD BE STEPPING INTO WHAT TEXAS.
MIKE WELCH PUT IT IN BECAUSE HE FELT HE OWED SOMETHING TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THETHE.
THEY'VE HELPED US OUT IN PARK GLEN A NUMBER OF TIMES.
HOW WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR NAME TO BE OVER THERE WHERE IT SAYS TEXAS DIRECT? WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE OPERATING, IF NOT ALL, COULD YOU PICK UP? OKAY, JUST WANTED TO TOSS THIS.
UH, ONE OF YOU GENTLEMEN HAD MENTIONED THE HEALTH PROBLEM THAT YOUR VETS HAD TALKED ABOUT.
I WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAD TO BE MADE.
I SOUND, UH, THE ACOUSTICS ARE NOT WONDERFUL IN HERE.
I'M NOT SURE I HEARD THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HEALTH STAND FROM THE VETS.
THE PRINCIPLE FOR THIS PARTICULAR DOG PARK OF ILLNESS COMES FROM THE FAR NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE LARGE DOG PARK WHERE THERE IS A, AN AREA WHERE THERE'S A BERM CUTTING ACROSS THE NATURAL DRAINAGE THAT SHOULD BE THERE.
BEING THE LOW SPOTTED IS WHERE THOSE WHO DO NOT.
YEAH, I THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE ONE CARRY DOG BAGS WITH THEM EVERYWHERE.
THE THE FECES RUNS IN THERE AND THEN IT SIT AND IT DISSOLVES INTO THE WATER AND YEAH, IT CAN GET BAD.
UH, REAL QUICKLY, SO I, I KNOW THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A MAINTENANCE.
I WANTED YOU TO BE WHAT, IT'D BE REALLY NICE, THE HEALTH PROBLEMS COULD LARGELY GO AWAY IF EITHER THE CURRENT OME WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT OR I HATE TO DO IT, MAKE YOU AWARE OF SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO DO.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE VERY FACT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO, UH, KEEP TOYING WITH THIS IDEA FOR THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
UH, THOSE OF US WHO USE IT VALUE IT.
I WOULD QUESTION BECAUSE NOT MUCH OF YOUR POPULATION TURNS THERE AT DISCOUNT TIRE TO COME DOWN THIS.
HOW MANY OF YOUR FOLKS EVEN KNOW IT'S THERE? HOW MANY OF YOUR FOLKS HAVE DOGS THAT GO OUT THERE? THE, UH, ONE ON UNIVERSITY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REALLY AWARE THAT THIS DOG PARK IS HERE.
I KNOW OF A NUMBER OF YOUR RESIDENTS WHO NO LONGER GO THERE BECAUSE OF THE DETERIORATED STATE.
I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU NAMES AND ADDRESSES.
ALRIGHT, JUST WANTED TO TOSS IN THAT 30 SECONDS WORTH.
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DONATION ONTO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.YEAH, WE, WE, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR DONATION.
BE SURE TO NOTE THAT DOWN AS REVENUE.
SO WHERE ARE WE? IS IT JUST TO MAKE SURE, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WANTS TO COME SPEAK? WELL, COME ON.
SO GIVE US YOUR NAME, JANICE SPEAR.
AND I'M A FREQUENT, UH, DOG MOM.
WE GO THERE QUITE OFTEN AND WE HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY FOND OF THAT PARK.
UM, SOME OF US HAVE EVEN PUT A LITTLE MONEY INTO THAT PARK.
WE'VE KIND OF WORKED AND TRIED TO KEEP UP SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE EXISTED BECAUSE, UH, A ROOM DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T, UH, KEEP THEIR BARGAIN, BUT PART OF THE REASON WHY THERE IS SOME OF THE ILLNESS THAT HAS BEEN IS BECAUSE OF THE BROKEN PIPES THAT ARE UNDERNEATH THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE BEEN SHUT OFF, BUT THAT WATER THAT ACCUMULATED BECAUSE THE WATER WAS STILL GOING, ALSO THE WET AND THE DOG POOP ALSO, UH, CONTRIBUTED TO THE, UH, ILLNESS.
SO I MEAN, IF THAT PARK WOULD JUST DRY OUT OR THE PIPES WERE JUST TURNED OFF, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE ON ANYMORE BECAUSE THE WATER, THE WATER SOURCE WHERE THE PIPES WENT TO ISN'T THERE ANYMORE.
IT WAS FOR THE DOG WASH AREA AND IT WAS PROBABLY FOR, THERE WAS SOME, UM, FOUNTAINS AND SUCH.
SO THOSE AREN'T THERE ANYMORE.
SO THEY COULD JUST TAKE 'EM OUT OR JUST CLOSE 'EM OFF AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT WET PROBLEM.
SO THAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO, YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH OF THE, THE, THE PARK TOO AND WHAT HE WAS SAYING.
ALSO, I AGREE WITH ABOUT THE AREA THAT THE WATER JUST, UH, SETTLES IN THAT AREA OF THE PARK.
IT'S THE, I THINK THE NORTHWEST PART OF IT.
AND, UH, IF THAT WERE JUST SOMEHOW, UH, FIXED OR THEY COULD DRAIN EASIER, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM EITHER.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.
AND TELL ME YOUR FIRST NAME AGAIN.
UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE ISSUES THAT THE CITY HAS NOT DEALT WITH ON THAT BERM AND, UH, AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS.
UM, I HAVE HAD PEOPLE NOTIFY ME OF THAT.
I THOUGHT WE GOT THAT BERM THING IN THE TAKEN CARE OF.
SCOTT, WHAT'S HIS NAME, ASSURED ME THAT WE HAD, YES, I SHOULD HAVE CHECKED IT AFTER IT RAINED.
UM, BUT THAT'S THE TYPE OF ISSUE THAT IF CITY TAKES OVER THE PARK, WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, THOSE THINGS GET CORRECTED AND THEY WORK WELL AGAIN.
UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, PART OF THE COST THAT RICK WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT WE DO HAVE GUESSTIMATES ON, UH, INCLUDE SANITIZING, WASTE PICKUP, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO WE'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE LOOK AFTER IT AS BEST WE CAN WITHIN OUR BUDGET RESTRICTIONS.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE I CALL, CALL FOR A A MOTION? WE, WE HAVE A MOTION.
I, RICK FOR THE NOW DAVID DID YOU SECOND? MM-HMM,
SO I HAD A MOTION A SECOND TO ALLOW US TO, JUST TO CLEAR IT.
THIS IS TO ALLOW THE AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT THE AGREEMENT FOR A DOLLAR A YEAR.
ONE YEAR OR ONE YEAR WITH THE CAVEAT OF, WITH THE CAVEAT, A FULL ALL OUR STUFF OUT.
WE, WE CAN REMOVE ALL OF OUR STUFF AND WE'RE JUST OPTIONING THE ACTUAL DOG PARK, NOT THE BACK PART.
I THINK THAT'S ALL THE S POINTS.
UM, AND THIS WILL GET US STARTED.
I WILL CONTACT THE CONS BEFORE NOON TOMORROW.
I WILL HAVE TO SAY, UM, IT'S VERY ODD TO HAVE A MEETING WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING AND THE ENTIRE AUDIENCE IS FOR IT RATHER THAN AGAINST IT.
WITH THAT, AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA SAY THANK Y'ALL ALL FOR COMING OUT.
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IT'S, UM, IT HELPS COUNCIL TO HAVE INPUT FROM THE PEOPLE THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO REPRESENT WELL.AND YET WHEN WE'RE GUESSING WE CAN'T REALLY REPRESENT.
AND TONIGHT COUNCIL GOT TO REPRESENT BASED ON INPUT FROM ITS RESIDENTS.
AND WE THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH.
OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER C, UH, WHICH IS DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION REGARDING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, ENDURANCE LANE PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE.
UM, THAT IS THE EXTENT OF MY KNOWLEDGE ON THIS THAT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.
UM, NICK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO PRE LEAD US IN TO JUST HAND IT TO RICK OR WHAT? YES SIR.
RICK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM
I WAS CONTACTED BY A RESIDENT WHO WANTS TO REDO THEIR DRIVEWAY.
THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF HOLDING OFF BECAUSE WONDERING WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH DORRANCE.
AND IT GOT ME THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO OPTION WITH THE COUNTY.
SO OUR, OUR CURRENT ASK WITH THE COUNTY IS WE BUILD PHASE TWO AND THE COUNTY BUILDS PHASE THREE WITH THE THE BOND 20 20 23, 20 23 MOBILITY BOND MONEY.
I THINK WE WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO GO BACK TO THE COUNTY AND ASK THEM TO FRONT THE MONEY FOR PHASE TWO CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS DOING THE PHASE THREE DESIGN.
UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OF BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY ON THAT.
AND THEN THE, THE CITY WOULD END UP PECKING UP MORE OF THE PHASE THREE CONSTRUCTION.
UM, WE ALL END UP PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE FINANCIALLY AT THE END.
UM, IT ALLOWS THE CITY TO PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY AWAY.
WE KINDA SHIFTED THE MONEY FOR DO TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
AND SO THIS WILL GIVE US TIME TO REBUILD THE COFFERS BEFORE WE GO TO CONSTRUCTION ON PHASE THREE, WHICH IS WHERE THE BIG EXPENDITURE IS.
UM, I THINK THE COUNTY WILL BE OPEN TO THIS WHEN WE TALK TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT COUNCIL THOUGHT ABOUT THAT OPTION.
WHERE ARE WE WITH PHASE TWO RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS DESIGN AND DESIGN DESIGN'S COMPLETE? IT'S SITTING ON THE SHELF READY TO GO.
WE WOULD JUST NEED TO BID IT OUT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT REALLY HELP THE COUNTY.
'CAUSE THAT MONEY'S WOULD BE AVAILABLE AT A MUCH SHORTER CYCLE WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE, THE BOND.
THE BOND, THE FIVE-YEAR BOND PERIOD OR WHATEVER.
I MEAN BASICALLY, UH, I'LL, I'LL HOLD THE REASONS WHY IT'S A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY.
UM, THE, WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS THEM TO SHOW A PROJECT UNDER CONSTRUCTION, HARD DOLLARS GOING ONTO THE GROUND RATHER THAN THE, THE PROBLEM WITH THE COUNTY BONDS IS IT TAKES US THREE TO FOUR YEARS TO GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON MOST THINGS BY THE TIME YOU DO THE DESIGN, GET THE UTILITIES MOVED, BUY RIGHT AWAY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO ANYTIME THAT THE COUNTY CAN PUT CONCRETE ON THE GROUND, IT'S A BENEFIT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY CAN TAKE A PICTURE OF.
SO, UH, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY IS.
SO WHAT WOULD THE TIMELINE LOOK LIKE IF THE COUNTY SAYS YES? UM, IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE US STILL THREE TO FOUR MONTHS TO GET THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT DONE JUST BECAUSE OF ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE WITH PROJECTS BEING PUT IN FRONT OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
UM, BEYOND THAT, GET IT OUT TO BID 30 DAYS.
AND SO, I MEAN, THEORETICALLY WE COULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION BY MIDSUMMER.
UM, IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD PUT IT UNDER CONSTRUCTION BY THE BEGINNING OF SUMMER WHILE SCHOOL'S NOT IN SESSION.
BUT WE'LL HAVE TO KIND OF PLAY THAT BY EAR.
UM, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO GO THIS DIRECTION, THEN STAFF CAN MAKE CONTACT WITH THE PRECINCT AND IF THEY'RE AGREEABLE WE CAN START WORKING ON THE BUSINESS POINTS OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
RICK, CAN YOU GO OVER SOME OF THE NUMBERS REAL QUICK? SO THE COUNTY WAS 3.1.
I THINK IT WAS 3 MILLION FLAT.
AND THEN PHASE TWO, WHAT ARE, DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT, WHERE IT IS? 1.1, 1.2, SOMEWHERE IN THERE? UH, THAT'S, YEAH, WELL THERE'S AN OLD ESTIMATE THAT'S THAT'S YEARS OLD AND I ACTUALLY BROUGHT THAT THERE.
IT'S CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE WITHOUT CONSTRUCTION PHASE ENGINEERING IS ROUGHLY, WHAT IS IT, 1.3? UM, SO WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 1.5, 1.6.
WITH, UM, INSPECTION SERVICES.
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THAT'LL LEAVE US WITH ONE AND A HALF TO GO TOWARDS PHASE THREE, WHICH IS GONNA BE, I IMAGINE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE.I WAS ESTIMATED AT ROUGHLY 3 MILLION.
SO WE NEED TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER MILLION AND A HALF TO, AND I MEAN WHATEVER THE COUNTY FRONTS INTO PHASE TWO, WE'LL HAVE TO REPLACE THAT WITH PHASE THREE MM-HMM.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, THEY WERE GONNA DESIGN PHASE THREE FROM KIRKWOOD TO UM, THE BAYOU BECAUSE YOU GOTTA TAKE THE DRAINAGE ALL THE WAY TO THE BAYOU.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BID THAT IN ONE PACKAGE.
WE COULD SPLIT THAT INTO TWO PACKAGES AS WELL.
I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS JUST BECAUSE IT ADVANCES A PROJECT AND THE LONGER YOU LEAVE A PLAN SET SIT ON THE SHELF, THE FASTER IT GOES STALE.
AND THE MORE YOU HAVE TO READJUST THAT PLAN SET AS WE GO, I MEAN, RIGHT AS IT GETS CORRECTED.
SO LEMME JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS RIGHT NOW.
WE GOT A ROLL PAPER SITTING UP ON THE SHELF THAT SAY PHASE TWO CONSTRUCTION COMPLETE.
WE HAD PUT A BOND REQUEST OUT FOR PHASE THREE, WHICH HAD NO PAPER, NO NOTHING.
THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, YOU GOT $3 MILLION TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
WE COULD PROBABLY KNOCK A YEAR OFF OF THINGS HAPPENING IF WE GO TO PHASE TWO CONSTRUCTION.
IS THAT CORRECT? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING NOW THAN I DID BEFORE COUNSEL, WAS THE OBJECTIONS THAT EVERYBODY HAD ABOUT THE COUNTY DIDN'T EVEN SPEND ALL THE MONEY THAT WE GAVE THEM BEFORE, NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE IN THAT FIRST TWO YEARS OF LAND ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION DESIGN, MAYBE EVEN THREE YEARS.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA BYPASS ALL THAT AND LEAPFROG A WHOLE LOT OF THAT.
IF, IF THEY ALLOW US TO DO THAT, IS THAT OKAY? IN THE INTERIM, WE WILL GET SOMEONE ACCEPTABLE TO US AND ACCEPTABLE TO THE COUNTY TO DESIGN.
MORE THAN LIKELY THE PRECINCT IS GOING TO WANT TO CONTROL THE DESIGN WITH CITY INPUT.
IWI WOULD SAY THE ONLY INPUT WE HAVE IS NO ON A COUPLE PEOPLE, BUT PROBABLY YES TO ANYBODY ELSE.
WOULD THAT BE A FAIR STATE? CORRECT.
SO WE'RE GONNA COME AWAY WITH A DESIGN.
AND THIS IS THE TIMELINE AGAIN, I'M A LITTLE BIT WATERED DOWN ON 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME TIME THERE, RICK, TO BE ABLE TO START TRYING TO SAVE MONEY AND PUTTING IT INTO THAT COFFERS.
HOW MUCH TIME ARE WE LOOKING AT THAT ON IT BEFORE THAT THAT DESIGN GETS DONE AND READY TO BID THAT OUT? YOU'RE LOOKING AT LEAST A YEAR.
I MEAN THE, THE, THE COUNTY HASN'T EVEN SELECTED ENGINEERS FOR ANY OF THE COUNTY PROJECTS.
THE COMMISSIONERS ARE STILL WORKING ON THEIR LIST.
WE'LL START, PROBABLY START WORKING ON CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS IN LATE JANUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY WITH ALL THOSE ENGINEERS.
THAT MEANS WE'RE GONNA BE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH OVER A HUNDRED ENGINEERS AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED PROJECTS.
UM, SO THAT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S GONNA BE STAFF TIME.
IT'LL TAKE US A WHILE TO GET THOSE TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL START DESIGN ON COUNTY PROJECTS BEFORE THIRD QUARTER OF 2025.
AND THAT'S NOT UNREALISTIC AT ALL.
BUT IF, IF THE, IF WE GET A, A HEAD NOD FROM THE PRECINCT, WE CAN ACTUALLY GET HDR TO START WORKING UP THE BID PACKAGE WHERE WE'RE READY TO BID.
OH, ON PHASE TWO? ON PHASE TWO, AS SOON AS THE ILA IS IS SIGNED AND THE COUNTY IS WILLING READY TO, TO WRITE US A CHECK BECAUSE THEY WON'T WRITE US A CHECK FOR MORE THAN THE BID.
SO WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE THE BID OUT SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS TO GET FROM THE COUNTY.
SO THERE'S A, THERE WOULD BE SOME THINGS WORKING IN PARALLEL.
BASICALLY ALL OF THIS MOVING IS AN ADJUSTMENT FROM THE MONIES THAT WE ORIGINALLY SET FOR PHASE TWO THAT NOW ARE AT THE, IN THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT.
WE, WE AGREED WE'D POSTPONE A YEAR.
THIS MOVES IT BACK UP TO NEXT YEAR'S PROJECT.
PHASE THREE WOULD BE DESIGNED MAYBE AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR, MAYBE THE FOLLOWING YEAR, CONSTRUCTION THE YEAR AFTER.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BACK ON OUR ORIGINAL TIMELINE IF THIS WORKS PRETTY CLOSE.
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THAT'S A GREAT IDEA THEN.WE HAD HOPED TO ADVERTISE OR WE HAD HOPED TO, UM, BID PHASE TWO IN OCTOBER.
OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S APRIL THAT'S WE'RE STILL SIX MONTHS BEHIND WHERE WE WANTED IT TO BE.
C COUNSEL, Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? I MEAN, I, I I'M READY TO SAY LET'S GIVE IT A TRY AND, AND BECAUSE THE, UH, NONE THE OTHER ONES HAVE, UH, COUNTY COMMISSIONER CAN TELL ME TO GO POUNCE.
WE'VE ALREADY COME TO YOUR AGREEMENT.
DON'T BOTHER ME RIGHT NOW THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
I DON'T THINK IT'LL HAPPEN, BUT IT COULD.
AND UH, SO DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THIS OR IS THIS COULD, OKAY.
I MEAN I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION JUST TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO AND SOMEBODY HELPED ME OUT.
UH, WE'RE PLANNING TO MOVE, REQUEST THE COUNTY ALLOW US TO MOVE PHASE TWO CONSTRUCTION, UH, UP AND BEGIN PHASE THREE DESIGN WITH THE CURRENT BOND MONEY.
ANY BOND MONIES LEFT OVER WILL BE PUT ASIDE TO FOR CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE THREE AND ALL THE BALANCE WILL BE SUPPLEMENTED BY THE CITY BECAUSE OF MY DAY JOB.
I'D PREFER SOMEONE ELSE MAKE THIS MOTION.
OH, AND I CAN'T MAKE THE MOTION.
I SAID I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE, OKAY.
MOTION IS UTTERED BY THE MAYOR.
WE, UH, TO, TO CHANGE, CHANGE THE ORDER OF REQUEST TO THE COUNTY.
WE HAD A MOTION BY DAVID SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BY ANYBODY BUT RICK, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
FOLKS THAT ARE STILL HERE, THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
UH, AND, AND IF WE DO THIS AND WE'VE MANAGED TO MOVE THIS THROUGH, IT'S REALLY GONNA BE A LOT BETTER DEAL FOR THE CITY OF MEADOWS PLACE.
IT'LL ALLOW US TO HAVE MUCH MORE FLUID, UH, USE OF OUR CONSTRUCTION MONEY.
'CAUSE WE'RE ONLY ONE SQUARE MILE.
SO THIS ALLOWS US TO BEST UTILIZE IT, UH, AND UTILIZE OUR TIMEFRAME IN OUR STAFF.
SO WITH THAT, ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE.
UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY OBJECTIONS, WE ARE ADJOURNED.