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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.[Special City Council Meeting on September 19, 2023.]
HOPE EVERYBODY CAN FIND A CHAIR.EVERYBODY OUT THERE IN MEADOW, TEXAS, WE WELCOME YOU TWO.
THIS IS A MEADOW'S PLACE, CITY COUNCIL SE SPECIAL SESSION.
IT'S TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2023 AT 5 32 AT MEADOWS PLACE.
CITY HALL CALLING, UH, ITEM MAY IS CALLED TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCING A QUORUM.
WELL, NO, I MEAN WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.
WE WILL HAVE ONE MORE JOINING US, WE BELIEVE AND, AND RICK STALEY AND CAL MILLS IS, UH, QUESTIONABLE.
SO WE ARE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED, BUT I WANT TO STALL FOR A COUPLE MINUTES AND SEE IF I CAN GET A RESPONSE BACK FROM RICK.
UM, YES COUNSEL, HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH US WAITING ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.
FIRST OF ALL, ANNAMARIE, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND NICK FOR ALL OF THESE NUMBERS.
I'M NOT A NUMBERS GUY SO I COULD, I COULDN'T PUT THIS TOGETHER AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT Y'ALL TAKE TO DO IT.
'CAUSE NUMBERS DO ALWAYS TELL A STORY AND AS THIS DOES NOT GONNA MATTER, ALREADY KNOW WHAT I WANT.
THAT'S 'CAUSE I'M OUT HUNTING FOR DOLLARS.
10 MINUTES OUT IF YOU WANT JOHN.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK HE'S GOOD AT THAT.
JOHN, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM B, WHICH IS DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION.
EXCEPTING A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM H D R ENGINEERING, THE MEADOWS PLACE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT CLARIFY REHABILITATION PROJECT.
AND THE AMOUNT OF $4,275,000 AND 0 CENTS FOR THE, UH, THAT'S FOR THE TOTAL BID AND THE ADD ALTERNATES.
JOHN, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM SO YOU CAN BE ON SPEAKER AND SEE IF YOU CAN GIVE US THE COUNCIL'S PRESENT A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DIS FINALLY DECIDING ON WHAT, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA SPEND $4,275,000.
PARDON MY VOICE, IT SEEMS TO BE LEAVING ME.
UH, COUNSEL, UH, WE RECEIVED, UH, ONE BID FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, WE ACTUALLY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION AND SO DID THE BIDDING CONTRACTOR.
THERE WAS GONNA BE TWO BIDS, BUT DUE TO THE FACT OF SOME OF THE COMPLICATION OR HOW COMPLICATED IT IS TO DO THIS PROJECT, UH, AS FAR AS KEEPING THE PLANT OPERATIONAL WHILE YOU'RE DOING A MAINTENANCE PROJECT ON IT, IT'S LIKE CHANGING THE OIL WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING A CAR.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T TAKE THE PLANT DOWN, YOU GOTTA KEEP THE PLANT RUNNING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO ONE OF THE BIDDERS, UH, DECIDED THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT WAS JUST TOO MUCH OF A RISK ON HIS END TO POTENTIALLY COST, UH, THE CITY SOME KIND OF, UH, ISSUES WITH, WITH PERMITTING.
THE ONE THAT WE DID, UH, RECEIVE, UM, IT DID COME IN A LITTLE BIT HIGH.
UH, SOME OF THE REASONS THAT THEY HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS, UM, IS LIKE I SAID, THEY HAD TO KEEP THE PLANT ONLINE.
WHY THEY DID THE PROJECT, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT USING BULKHEADS, WHICH IS TYPICALLY A WAY THAT YOU CAN DO TO SAVE COST.
BUT DUE TO THE AGE OF THE PLANT, THE WALLS ARE WHAT CALLED BATTERED WALLS, WHICH MEANS THAT THE BOTTOM OF THE WALLS ARE THICKER THAN THE TOP OF THE WALLS.
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YOU KNOW, IS A LOT MORE DIFFICULT THAN IF IT WAS STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN.AND SO TO MITIGATE THE RISK OF THE CONTRACTOR, HE ENDED UP PUTTING IN SOME SIGNIFICANT BYPASS, PUMPING IN THIS CONTRACT.
AND THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE BASE BID.
NOW, WE'VE CALLED AND TALKED TO THE CONTRACTOR AND VISITED WITH HIM ON, ON THE BIDS THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, IN THE AT ALTERNATIVE.
OKAY? BECAUSE THE CITY CAN SELECT ONE OF THREE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WARD ALL OF THEM.
HE HAD TO PUT BYPASS PUMPING IN EVERY ONE OF 'EM.
SO THERE IS SOME REDUNDANCIES IN IT IF YOU WERE TO WARD ALL OF IT, TO REDUCE THE COST OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE OF THESE REDUNDANCIES.
NOW, HE HASN'T GIVEN ME THAT NUMBER AS OF YET, BUT IF YOU CAN SHUT DOWN BYPASS, REPLACE SIX, BYPASS THE, REPLACE THE OTHERS WAY MORE EFFICIENT, NOT AS MUCH BYPASS PUMPING, BUT DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE GONNA AWARD ALL OF THEM, OR JUST A PORTION OF THEM OR ONE OF THEM, HE HAD TO INCLUDE THE COST IN THOSE BID ITEMS. NOW, IN THE BASE BID, THE BASE BID INCLUDES TWO OF THOSE GATES, RIGHT? AND THAT'S THE NOMINAL AMOUNT OF GATES THAT ARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO DO THIS REHABILITATION OF THIS PROJECT.
OKAY? HOWEVER, THE OTHER GATES ARE GONNA BE NECESSARY WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT YOUR REHABILITATION OF YOUR CLARIFIER BRIDGE.
HOW MANY GATES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? UH, IN THE, UH, BASE BEDS TWO IN THE AD ALTERNATIVE I BELIEVE IS 15.
SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE RECORD A TOTAL, A TOTAL OF 17 GATES.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO IS WHY THEY'RE IN THERE.
WE CAN REPLACE THOSE GATES BECAUSE MONEY SPENT TODAY IS CHEAPER THAN MONEY SPENT TOMORROW.
WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT INFLATION, YOU START LOOKING AT RE MOBILIZATION, YOU START LOOKING AT ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, UH, TO THE COST DRIVERS ON THIS.
IF WE CAN SAVE MONEY ON THE BYPASSING BY COMBINING THEM, AND WE'LL WORK THAT NUMBER OUT AT A, AT A LATER TIME, UH, THAT, THAT WOULD PROVIDE A COST SAVINGS TO THE CITY.
UH, AS I WAS SAYING PREVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IS NOT JUST THIS PROJECT, BUT THE FUTURE PROJECT OF HAVING TO REHAB THE CLARIFIER BRIDGE ON THE CONTENT OR THE, THE, UH, FLOORING CONTACT BASIN.
THAT BRIDGE NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED AS WELL.
THESE GATES THAT WE'RE MODIFYING WILL HELP ASSIST THAT.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT ANYWAYS WHEN YOU DO THAT TRAVELING BRIDGE.
SO IF YOU PAY NOW ODD OR YOU TAKE THE BID, NOW ODDS ARE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE CHEAPER THAN WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IF WE REBID IT.
UM, UNLESS THE CONTRACTOR DECIDES TO DROP ITS PRICE.
BUT HE KNOWS NOW HE'S THE ONLY BIDDER THAT'S BIDDING ON THIS.
SO THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT HE COULD INCREASE HIS COST.
NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT HE IS GOING TO DO.
SO THE OTHER REASONS FOR THESE GATES IS JUST THE OPERATIONS OF THE PLANT AND GETTING THIS STUFF BACK TOGETHER AND GETTING THIS THING, UH, WORKING AS IT WAS DESIGNED TO.
UM, CURRENTLY IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR STAFF TO OPERATE THE PLANT.
I'M SURE ROD'S TALKED TO Y'ALL ABOUT THAT.
UM, THE INCREASED THICKNESS OF THE SLEDGE BLANKET IS STARTING TO BECOME AN ISSUE.
UM, EVEN IF WE WERE TO GET THE, THE, THE BRIDGE WORKING TODAY, RIGHT NOW, IF I COULD PUSH A BUTTON AND SAY BRIDGE WORK, IT WOULDN'T WORK BECAUSE OF THE THICKNESS OF THE SLEDGE BLANKET.
YOU GOTTA KEEP CLEANING THAT OUT BECAUSE YOUR OPERATIONS CONTROLLING IT.
SO ROD'S, UH, YOU CURRENTLY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOU HAVE TO CLEAN THAT ROUTINELY CLEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO DO A LIQUID HAUL.
SO AGAIN, NOT BEING ABLE TO CONTROL THE OPERATIONS AND GETTING THIS THROUGH IS, IS ONE OF THE THINGS.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT YOUR RETURN LINE AND THE EFFECTING OF YOUR, OF YOUR BASE IS WHEN YOU START FEEDING YOUR BUGS AND YOUR VARIATION, BASING ON THE RETURN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN UPSET THE PLANT VERY, VERY EASILY.
SO AGAIN, YOU'VE GOTTA BE ABLE TO HAVE THESE OPERATIONS IN STEP AND TO WHERE YOU CAN CONTROL THIS PLANT AS BEST AS YOU CAN.
AND THAT'S KIND OF A LONG-WINDED WAY OF, OF SAYING, I THINK WHAT, WHAT WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
SO THE MAIN ITEM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT OFF THE BAT IS THE BRIDGE.
AND THAT BRIDGE IS, INCLUDES A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUFF, JOHN.
ARE THE CONTROLLERS INCLUDED IN THAT DEBRIS RE BRIDGE REHAB? YES SIR.
SO WE HAVE NO, NO PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE COMING IN WITH NEW ELECTRONIC CONTROLLERS.
AND THE BRIDGE ITSELF, THE DRIVING WHEELS ARE ALL CONTROLLED AT ONE TIME AND THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NO LONGER ON LIKE A HYDRAULIC TOR IT CAN WEAR OUT ONE SIDE GOES FASTER THAN THE OTHER, WHICH IS
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YEAH.THAT'S, IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM SINCE I'VE BEEN AROUND.
SO, SO WE'D HAVE TO TAKE DOWN TWO GATES.
I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN KEEP THAT PLANNED.
AND I'D LIKE, AND I'M TELLING YOU THIS 'CAUSE I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO VERY SIMPLY EXPLAIN IT TO ME.
I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN KEEP THAT PLANT OPERATION WITHOUT HAVING TO DEAL WITH THOSE GATES, THOSE OTHER 15 GATES.
AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WITH REGARD TO CAN WE TAKE THE PLANT DOWN WITHOUT HAVING THOSE GATES? UH, I BELIEVE JOHN SAID IN THE BEGINNING, THE FIRST TWO GATES ARE MINIMUM, THE REMAINDER OF THE GATES ARE NECESSARY TO BE REPLACED TO OPERATE THE PLANT.
EFFECTIVELY, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE THE, UH, CLARIFI FIRE BRIDGE OUTTA SERVICE UNLESS WE DO THOSE ADDITIONAL GATES.
QUESTION WHAT THE, UH, THE GATES ARE BROKEN INTO FOUR ALTERNATIVES.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT? OR IS THERE WE, CAN WE DO SOME NOT ALL? OR IS THERE A CERTAIN THRESHOLD THAT WE NEED TO DO AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE BROKEN UP AND THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT COSTS, RIGHT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE BROKEN UP FOR AT DIFFERENT PLACES TO WHERE THEY, THEY LOOK LIKE THE, THAT ARE, THAT ARE FUNCTIONALLY YOU NEED TO DO AT THE SAME TIME.
RIGHT? UM, THEY'RE, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE OFF A, THE VARIATION BASIN AND MOVE IT OVER TO THE REATION BASIN AND MOVE THE RE-AIR BASIN OVER TO THE DIGESTOR AND RUN THE PLANT LIKE THAT.
SO WHEN YOU START MOVING ALL THIS STUFF OVER, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THOSE GATES TO OPERATE IT.
OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME IN WITH PUMPS OR YOU'LL COME IN WITH PUMPS AND, AND, AND TRY TO BULKHEAD IT.
RIGHT? YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO TRY TO BULKHEAD IT.
SO THE GATES THAT ARE THERE ARE PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLANT.
SO, SO THOSE GATES, IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF 'EM NOW, WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING CARE OF 'EM AT SOME POINT.
'CAUSE THEY'RE SIMPLY YES, SIR.
LIKE JOHN SAID, ORIGINALLY, UH, THE DOLLARS YOU SPEND TODAY IS AN EXTRA MILLION DOLLARS IF WE WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE SOME MONEY, WHICH MIGHT BE AT SOME POINT IN TIME IN THE FUTURE, IT WON'T BE A MILLION, IT'LL BE TWO OR WHATEVER THE MARKET IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
DAVID, IF I CAN, WE REDID THE AERATORS ON THAT IN THAT PLANT EIGHT OR NINE YEARS AGO MAYBE.
WHEN, WHEN WE TAKE, IF WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN TAKE THE AERATORS DOWN, IF I FIND THAT THEY ARE NEEDING AND REPAIR, I WILL TAKE THAT OUTTA MY MAINTENANCE BUDGET.
BUT I, WHAT I, WHERE I WAS GOING DAVID, WAS WE TOOK THOSE AND, AND HAD TO DROP THE PLANT AND WE HAD TO BOUNCE IT AROUND JUST LIKE YOU WERE SAYING.
AND WE RAN INTO DIFFICULTY BECAUSE NOT ALL THE GATES WORKED.
UM, SO WE RAN INTO PROBLEMS THEN IT COST US TIME AND MONEY.
WE HAD TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL SLUDGE HOG BECAUSE OF THAT.
UM, BUT THOSE GATES WERE NOT IN GOOD SHAPE AT THAT TIME.
AND IT, SO I KNOW THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY BETTER.
SO IF I'M HEARING YOU RIGHT, DAVID, DON'T LET ME PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.
IF I'M HEARING YOU RIGHT, YOU'RE WONDERING WHY WE WOULD NOT TAKE CARE OF THE GATES ALL AT ONE TIME WHEN WE HAVE THE PLANT DOWN.
UM, SO CLEARLY THERE ARE ONES THAT HAVE TO BE KEPT TOGETHER WHEN YOU'RE REDOING 'EM.
SO, AND, AND THERE'S NOT CONDITIONS THAT ARE DIFFERENT BETWEEN 'EM, IT'S JUST THE FUNCTION AND WHERE THEY ARE THAT ARE GONNA BE NEEDED.
WAS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? WHAT I SAID? OKAY.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT JOHN WAS TALKING ABOUT? I'M JUST TRYING TO STRETCH RIGHT HERE.
JOHN, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CONTRACTOR.
I'M COMPLETELY UNFAMILIAR WITH 'EM, BUT THAT DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE OTHER CONTRACTORS AROUND TOWN ANYWAY.
WE'VE, WE'VE CALLED THEIR CONTRACT, UH, THEIR, THEIR REFERENCES AND THEY DID HAVE GOOD REFERENCES.
PEOPLE, PEOPLE SAID THEY WOULD USE THEM AGAIN.
THEY HAD A GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH THEM.
UM, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, UH, THEY HAVE BROUGHT UP THE, THE THING OF, OF POTENTIALLY, UH, COST SAVINGS IF, IF THE WHOLE THING'S AWARDED, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THEM.
SO I MEAN, THEY'RE WANTING TO WORK WITH THE CITY.
UM, NOW, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T, HE DIDN'T GIMME THAT NUMBER UNTIL WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
'CAUSE HE COULDN'T UNTIL THERE'S A CONTRACT SIGNED.
AND HE JUST COULDN'T, COULDN'T DO THAT JUST RIGHT NOW.
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BUT, UH, FROM, FROM EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE RESEARCHED, SEEMS TO BE A, A, UH, COMPANY, UH, CAPABLE OF DOING THE WORK AND HAS A, A SOLID HISTORY OF DOING THE WORK.SO WITH THAT, WELL JOHN, WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID, OH, HE'S HERE.
BRETT, WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID THERE, YOU SAID THE CONTRACTOR SAID IF WE AWARDED ALL THE GATES THERE MIGHT BE A COST SAVINGS.
THE REASON WHY THE, THE ALTERNATIVE CAME IN SO HIGH IS BECAUSE YOU COULD PICK ONE OF THE PACKAGES.
SO WE HAD TO INCLUDE THE BYPASS PUMPING IN EACH INDIVIDUAL PACKAGE IN CASE YOU SAID, WELL I JUST WANNA DO THIS ONE.
THERE'S GONNA BE SOME COST SAVINGS ON THE BYPASS PUMPING ON THE PROCUREMENT SIDE.
WHAT FLEXIBILITY DO WE HAVE ON NEGOTIATING ON A BID? AND BECAUSE IF WE AWARD THIS AS IS, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE INCENTIVE FOR HIM TO GIVE US THAT COST SAVINGS? HOWEVER, IF WE WENT BACK AND SAID, OKAY, WE'RE WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL FOUR, YOU'VE INDICATED THAT'S WE CAN DO SOME COST SAVINGS.
WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? BASICALLY IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF VALUE ENGINEERING WITH THE CONTRACTOR, WHICH THE COUNTY USUALLY DOES ON BUILDINGS.
I'VE NEVER, I I DON'T DO THIS TYPE OF WORK, SO I DON'T KNOW.
SO JOHN, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A CONTRACT THAT AFTER THE SEAL COMPETITIVE IS OPENED, THE AWARDED CONTRACT COULD HAVE SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT WOULD GIVE CERTAIN GUARANTEES ON REDUCED COSTS? THERE IS NO GUARANTEES OF REDUCED COST.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IS, IS IF COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED FORWARD AND LOOK AT IT, COUNSEL COULD GIVE THE DIRECTION TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE FULL, THE FULL AWARD CONTINGENT UPON CITY MANAGER'S APPROVAL TO WHERE I CAN GO AND TALK TO 'EM AND I'VE BEEN GIVEN DIRECTION BY THE CITY TO TALK TO 'EM AND I CAN BRING BACK WHAT, WHAT COST SAVINGS.
I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY KIND OF PROCUREMENT ISSUES DUE TO THE FACT WE'VE ONLY HAD ONE BIDDER.
BECAUSE IF WE HAD TWO BIDDERS, YOU COULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THE FIRST THING, THE SECOND BIDDER WOULD SAY, I COULD HAVE CUT MY PRICE WAY MORE THAN THAT AND I WOULD'VE BEEN THE LOW BIDDER.
SO BY GETTING ONE BIDDER, IT GIVES US THAT OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO WHERE IF, IF YOU WERE TO SAY YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD PROCEED FORWARD CONTINGENT UPON, UH, MINE AND NICK'S REVIEW AND, AND WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? IS IT $50,000 TOTAL SAVINGS OR $250,000? I, I WOULDN'T, I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S HARD TO PUT A PUT IT, PUT IT ON THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK TO HIM ABOUT AND HAVE HIM SHOW US SOME COST.
I, I'D HATE TO SAY A NUMBER AND THEN EVERYBODY EXPECTS A NUMBER AND THEN I COME BACK.
IF HE, IF HE HADN'T SAID IT, YOU CAN'T SAY IT.
MY, MY GOAL WOULD BE $250,000 REDUCTION AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.
THE CITY NEEDS TO SET THAT GOAL.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE, WELL, THE FIRST IN A NEGOTIATION, THE FIRST ONE TO PUT THE NUMBER OUT LOSES TYPICALLY.
HOWEVER, YOU HAVE TO SET SOME GOAL.
THAT WOULD BE OUR, NOW WE'VE ALSO GOT A TIME ISSUE HERE WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
SO I WOULD PREFER TO, WE PUT A NUMBER OUT.
IF WE PUT OUT TWO 50, HE'S GONNA OFFER 100 AND WE'RE GONNA GO SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE.
IF WE WANTED A TRUE NUMBER OF TWO 50, WE WOULD SAY 400 RESET SAVINGS AND TRY TO SETTLE AT TWO 50.
RICK, AM I HEARING YOU TALK ABOUT DOING THE WHOLE PACKAGE, INCLUDING ALL THE GATES? I WOULD LIKE TO, IF WE CAN FIND THE MONEY, AND I THINK THAT'S THE NEXT PART OF THIS DISCUSSION OF WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 2.7 IN ARPA MONEY.
WE HAD FIGURED WE WERE GONNA KICK IN 500,000 EXTRA, YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S 1.5.
SO WHERE'S THAT EXTRA MILLION COMING FROM? IS IT PUTTING DORRANCE ASIDE? IS IT FOR AN EXTRA YEAR? WHERE IS THAT MONEY? YEAH.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL WALK Y'ALL THROUGH THIS, THIS, UH, THIS SHEET.
COUNSEL, ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR JOHN? YEAH, JOHN, ONE, ONE MORE QUESTION.
AND THIS MAY BE WHERE THE SAVINGS IS, THE NINE 30.
I'LL WAIT FOR ADDITIONAL ITEMS. 930,000 OR CLOSE TO THE MILLION THAT WE'RE ADDING.
THAT IS, THAT'S WHERE THE REDUNDANCIES BUILT IN, IN THAT, THAT 900,000, IT'S NOT IN THE 3.2 MILLION.
SO WE'RE, WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE
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400 BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE HALF, HALF PRICE.YEAH, I MEAN IT'S THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING IS LOOKING AT THIS WITH 300, 300.
THE SAVINGS IS IN A SMALL BAD PACKET, NOT THE BIG PACKET.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET IT TO 3.9999, YOU KNOW, RIGHT UNDER FOUR.
WELL, WE JUST, WE HAVE TO PREPARE FOR THE POSSIBILITY.
THE CONTRACTOR MAY NOT BE INTERESTED IN COMMITTING TO ANY NUMBER.
UM, THEY MAY UNTIL HE SEES WHAT HIS COSTS ARE.
AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL WE ASK, BUT, SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE'RE RIGHT NOW, NICK NECK, WE'VE GOT A, WE ALL FEEL LIKE WE KINDA HAVE A HANDLE ON THE PROJECT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH ALL THE GATES IF WE CAN FIND THE MONEY.
IS THAT CONSENSUS? AND I WORE MY, I'M HUNTING FOR MONEY TIE, SO GO AHEAD.
OKAY, NICK, WELL IF YOU GUYS ARE READY, WE WILL, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE, THE SPREADSHEET AS QUICK AS I CAN.
UM, I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO ANNA MARIA FOR, FOR COMING UP WITH THIS AND I KNOW THAT IF I MISSPEAK ON ANY OF THIS, I'LL FEEL HER STARING AT ME AND I'LL, UM, I'LL KNOW TO STOP.
UM, SO THE SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU, LET ME, I'M GONNA TRY AND BREAK IT DOWN AS, AS, AS SIMPLY AS WE CAN.
UM, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR AT THE END OF THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING FOR A LONG TIME, WHICH IS YOU CAN AFFORD TO DO, DO PHASE TWO WITH CASH.
YOU CAN AFFORD TO DO WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WITH CASH, BUT YOU'RE GONNA BE VERY, VERY HARD PRESSED TO DO BOTH.
OKAY? SO THIS SHEET IS SPLIT UP INTO TWO SECTIONS.
YOUR LEFT SIDE'S UTILITY, YOUR RIGHT SIDE IS CITY GOING ON THAT FIRST BOX, YOU'RE GONNA SEE WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE CASH ON HAND, WHICH IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE FUNDS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 2.62 MILLION.
THEN WE GOTTA PULL OUT ALL OF THE RESTRICTED THAT WE HAVE INSIDE THERE.
AND OF COURSE YOU NEED TO PULL BACK SOME FOR SECURITY DEPOSITS.
WE DO HAVE THAT 3 91 RESTRICTED FOR DORRANCE PHASE TWO, ASSUMING WE DO THAT.
AND THEN OF COURSE THAT 1.049 IS THE ARPA MONEY THAT WE GOT FROM THE FEDERAL.
THE MONEY THAT WE GOT DIRECT THAT IS GONNA GO TOWARD THE PLANT.
SO IF YOU TAKE ALL OF THOSE RESTRICTED FUNDS OUT, THAT LEAVES YOU WITH A BALANCE UNRESTRICTED OF 1,000,080 8,000.
NOW, A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO WE DID THAT NEW, UH, GOAL, UH, FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE OF THE 10 MONTH RESERVE.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT 10 MONTH RESERVE WOULD NEED TO BE GIVEN OUR EXPENDITURES.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT RED NUMBER.
THAT'S HOW MUCH BELOW THAT 10 MONTH YOU ARE RIGHT NOW IN THIS SNAPSHOT, ASSUMING THAT WE DO DORRANCE PHASE TWO.
OKAY, NOW LET'S SAY WE GIVE UP THE DORRANCE PHASE TWO AND WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT NEXT YEAR AND WE UNENCUMBER THAT MONEY.
WELL THEN THAT 3 91 GOES INTO THAT 1,000,088 AND YOU'RE MUCH, MUCH CLOSER TO THE 1.5.
YOU'RE ABOUT 40, 50,000 UNDER THE 1.5 AT THAT POINT.
BUT YOU'RE STILL A LITTLE BIT UNDER YOUR 10 MONTHS.
DOWN BELOW THAT YOU CAN SEE YOUR CAPITAL PROJECTS FROM OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS PLAN.
UM, FOR WASTEWATER FOR THE, UH, ON THE WATER SIDE, THAT 4.275 OF COURSE IS THE FULL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT BID.
THE 91 BELOW THAT OF COURSE IS YOUR CONSTRUCTION PHASE ENGINEERING THAT'S GONNA NEED TO BE ADDED TO THAT.
SO LET'S CALL IT 4.375 FOR SAKE OF A ROUND NUMBER.
UH, THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD CALL YOUR DRIVE OUT COSTS.
WORST CASE SCENARIO FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
NOW YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT WE'VE ALREADY LET A CONTRACT WITH H D R DO DESIGN ON THE WASTEWATER, I'M SORRY, ON THE LIFT STATION FOR THE LIFT PUMP CONTROLLER.
UM, THAT 1 65 THAT SHOWS FUNDED ON THAT IS THE REMAINDER OF THE COUNTY ARPA MONEY WE GOT THAT IS THE REMAINDER OF THE, UM, 650 THAT WE GOT FROM THE COUNTY, WHICH MEANS THAT ASSUMING THAT IT COSTS $400,000 TO BUILD THAT, AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER, BUT IT'S AN ESTIMATE, UH, THEN WE WOULD STILL NEED ABOUT 230,000 TO DO THAT.
OKAY? THEN WE TALK ABOUT THOS PHASE TWO.
WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT UP TOP.
BUT WHAT WE KNOW RIGHT NOW ON THE UTILITY SIDE IS THAT IF WE, EVEN IF WE UNRESTRICT DORRANCE PHASE TWO, YOU'RE STILL 30, 40, $50,000 UNDER YOUR 10 MONTH RESTRICTED AND YOU STILL HAVE NOT FUNDED THE CONSTRUCTION OF YOUR LIFT STATION.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO IF YOU GO AHEAD AND FUND THAT LIFT STATION, YOU'RE JUST BRINGING IT DOWN TO ANOTHER FOUR OR $500,000 UNDER YOUR 10 MONTHS.
OKAY? SO THAT'S THE SNAPSHOT OF UTILITY RIGHT NOW TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF KIND OF WHERE WE ARE ON THAT SIDE, THAT'S THE BAD NEWS.
LEMME GO TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE AND SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER NEWS.
SO SAME EXERCISE, DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE.
WE'RE GONNA GO OVER TO UTIL OR THE CITY SIDE, ADD UP OUR FUND BALANCES, UH, WHICH INCLUDES THAT 601,000 WHICH WE HAVE IN THERE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.
YOU'VE GOT IN YOUR FUND BALANCE, A LITTLE
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OVER 6 MILLION.LET'S START PULLING OUT THE RESTRICTED, GOT A TAKEOUT PEG, YOU KNOW, UH, CORE TECHNOLOGY, CHILD SAFETY, ET CETERA.
UH, THAT RESTRICTED DORRANCE PHASE ONE BALANCE, THAT'S THE 140,000 THAT WE STILL HAVE IN THERE TO FINISH OUT.
PHASE ONE, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FINAL INVOICE.
SO THAT ONE 40 MAY BE FREED UP JUST BECAUSE, UM, THE PHASE TWO RESTRICTED, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT'S FOR? THAT'S FOR IF WE DECIDE TO DO PHASE TWO.
NOW THAT 41 PLUS THAT ONE 40 ROUGHLY MAKES UP, THAT'S 601 UP THERE, THAT'S IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ACCOUNT, OKAY? THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THAT IS.
BUT IF YOU RESTRICT ALL THOSE OUT, THEN YOU'RE LEFT WITH ROUGHLY 5.1 MILLION.
AND IF YOU CONSIDER THAT WE WANT A SEVEN MONTH RESERVE ON THE CITY SIDE, THAT MEANS THAT YOU'RE ABOUT 1.3 MILLION, NOT QUITE 1.3 MILLION ABOVE YOUR MINIMUM RESERVE ON THE WATER SIDE, I MEAN ON THE, ON THE CITY SIDE.
ON THE CITY SIDE, OKAY? SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AT ABOUT 1.3 IN THE GREEN ON THE CITY SIDE.
AND THEN OF COURSE BELOW THAT WE LOOK AT DOREEN'S PHASE TWO.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT 1 MILLION AND 11,000 THAT'S IN THERE FOR FUNDED.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY, UM, THE 481 UP THERE THAT YOU SEE FOR DORRANCE PHASE TWO RESTRICTED PLUS THE TWO 50 THAT WE'RE GONNA GET FROM E D C PLUS THE TWO 80 THAT WE BUILT INTO OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR TO GO TOWARDS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT EQUALS THAT 1 MILLION AND 11,000 FOR NEXT YEAR.
OKAY? BUT EVEN STILL, YOU STILL HAVE ABOUT 1.3 OVER AND ABOVE YOUR SEVEN MONTH RESERVE.
NOW HOW MUCH IS IT GONNA COST TO DO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT? WORST CASE CASE SCENARIO ABOUT 4.375, RIGHT? SO IF YOU TOOK THE 4.375 THAT WE KNOW THE, THE PLANT'S GONNA COST, WORST CASE SCENARIO, YOU SUBTRACT THE 1.049 FEDERAL ARPA MONEY, YOU SUBTRACT THE MILLION AND A HALF THAT WE JUST GOT FROM THE COUNTY FOR ARPA MONEY.
THAT LEAVES YOU WITH ROUGHLY 1.825 MILLION THAT YOU NEED TO FIND IN ORDER TO FULLY FUND THE WASTEWATER PLANT.
SO WHERE'S THAT 1.825 GONNA COME FROM OVER ON THE LEFT SIDE.
REALLY GONNA BE HARD TO FIND ANY MONEY TO POUR TOWARDS YOUR WASTEWATER PLANT AT ALL.
YOU'RE ALREADY IN THE RED, WHICH MEANS THAT ANY AND ALL FUNDING THAT YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO PULL IN ORDER TO TO SHORE UP AND COMPLETE YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IS PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO COME FROM YOUR CITY SIDE.
IF YOU DON'T DO PHASE TWO ENDURANCE AND YOU FREE UP THAT 481,000 OVER ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THEN YOU'RE GETTING CLOSER TO, UH, 1.8 MILLION ABOVE YOUR SEVEN MONTH RESERVE.
THAT'LL GET YOU YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN.
BUT WHAT'LL END UP HAPPENING IS AT THE END OF ALL THIS, YOU'LL HAVE BARELY 10 MONTHS IN UTILITY, BARELY SEVEN MONTHS IN CITY A CASH FOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN AND YOU'RE DONE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THAT'S LEFT.
DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? WITH SEVEN MONTHS SITTING THERE IN RESERVE WITH SEVEN MONTHS SITTING IN RESERVE WITH 10 MONTHS SITTING THERE IN RESERVE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU UNENCUMBER THAT 4 81, IF YOU, IF YOU DECIDE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO A BILL DORRANCE PHASE TWO NEXT YEAR, THEN BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU ARE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OVER AND ABOVE YOUR SEVEN MONTHS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE CITY SIDE.
BUT ALL OF THAT MONEY IS GONNA BE NEEDED.
OKAY, SO IF YOU DON'T DO DORRANCE PHASE TWO NEXT YEAR, THEN WE FREE UP THAT 481,000.
OKAY? SO THAT BASICALLY INCREASES THAT 1.296 BY 481,000, RIGHT? WHICH GETS YOU CLOSER TO 1.8, WHICH GETS YOU CLOSER TO BEING ABLE TO FULLY FUND YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WITHOUT DIPPING INTO THE SEVEN MONTH RESERVE ON THE CITY SIDE.
OBVIOUSLY THESE NUMBERS CHANGE CHANGE ALL THE TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S IN THE FUND BALANCE, BUT THESE ARE ROUGH NUMBERS, A SNAPSHOT IN TIME OF, UH, OF WHAT YOU'VE GOT.
SO AGAIN, I THINK THE TAKEAWAY AT THE ENDING OF THIS IS THAT YOU'VE GOT CASH TO DO ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT YOU'D BE HARD PRESSED TO DO BOTH WITHOUT GOING DEEP, DEEP, DEEP INTO YOUR RESERVES ON BOTH FUNDS.
ANNA MARIA, IF WE, LET'S SAY WE SPENT THE ENTIRE 1.3 MILLION THAT'S IN EXCESS ON FUND 100, UM, THAT CUTS OUR RESERVES BY 20% WITH, DOES THIS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THEN CUTTING BACK ON THE PROJECTED INTEREST BY 20% OR HAS THAT BEEN CALCULATED IN YET? YES, WE DID.
ASSUMING WE WERE GONNA DO DORRANCE.
WE, WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA DO DORRANCE.
SO REALLY THAT'S CALCULATED IN RIGHT, AND THAT'S
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WHY WE WERE CONSERVATIVE, NOT BECAUSE OF THE PLANT, BUT SO IF WE MOVE THE, BASICALLY THE MONEY FROM DORRANCE TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, IT'S A WASH AS FAR AS THE INTEREST RATES GO OR INTEREST INCOME GOES, RIGHT? AND, AND I WANNA EMPHASIZE THAT USING GENERAL FUND MONEY TO BUILD A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IS VERY UNCONVENTIONAL, BUT IT'S REALLY THE ONLY OPTION WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW.IF WE'RE GONNA PAY CASH STAFF'S NOT GONNA RECOMMEND THAT YOU GO ANY MORE ON YOUR UTILITY SIDE THAN WHAT YOU'RE AT RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE GOTTA PAY FOR THE LIFT STATION.
WE DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE.
AND SO YOU'RE ALREADY AT 10 MONTHS IF YOU DON'T DO DORMS PHASE TWO ROUGHLY, UM, WATERLINE BREAKS DOING THE WASTEWATER PLANT, YOU'RE GONNA BE WELL BELOW THAT 10 MONTHS.
UM, IF WE DO WHAT WE THINK WE'RE GONNA DO.
SO THE CITY SIDE IS REALLY, IN OUR OPINION, THE ONLY OPTION YOU'VE GOT IN ORDER TO GO AHEAD AND FUND THIS PLANT.
THERE'S GONNA BE A MOBILITY BOND ISSUE.
HELLO RICK, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
THERE'S GONNA BE A MOBILITY BOND ISSUE IN NOVEMBER.
THERE'S GONNA BE A VOTE IN NOVEMBER, A VOTE ON A BOND IN NOVEMBER.
DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA PASS OR NOT, BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS CONVERSATION, I'M GONNA SAY IT DOES INCLUDED IN THAT MOBILITY BOND IS MONEY FOR DO FOR PHASE THREE, THREE, AND FOUR, RIGHT? IS THERE ANY WAY THAT IF WE PUSH DO BACK TO MOVE THIS FUNDING OVER HERE FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, THAT IF THE MOBILITY BOND PASSES FORTH IN NOVEMBER THAT WE COULD THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THREE AND FOUR USING COUNTY MONEY TO DO THAT? I WOULD SAY SO.
UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S UP TO NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE PRECINCT, BUT LET'S SAY IT DOES PASS IN NOVEMBER, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE PROJECT HAS TO START IN 24.
THAT MONEY IS PROJECTED TO BE SPENT BETWEEN 24 AND 29 AND IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THE PROJECT AND RIGHT AWAY AND UTILITY RELOCATIONS AND ALL OF THAT.
SO I THINK THE CITY COULD VERY MUCH GO TO THE COUNTY AND SAY, WE STILL WANT THE PROJECT, WE WANT IT TO MOVE FORWARD.
HOWEVER, WE'D LIKE TO WAIT AT LEAST A YEAR BEFORE WE START DESIGN SO THAT WE CAN MOVE CONSTRUCTION OUT BECAUSE THE COUNTY OR THE CITY'S GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR MORE THAN LIKELY THE CITY'S GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR THE UTILITY RELOCATIONS AND THE, AND THE WATERLINE RE REPLACEMENT ON THAT IS WHAT WE HAD PLANNED ON.
UM, SO I DON'T THINK THERE'D BE AN ISSUE WITH, WITH THE, THE COUNTY BOND MONEY AT ALL.
NO, I'M ASSUMING THAT IF IT PASSES, THEY'LL THEY'LL TAKE THEIR 50 MILLION THOUGH.
WELL THEY WON'T GET THE MONEY UNTIL THEY BID THE PROJECT SAYS AN EYE ROLL AND COUNCIL PERSON.
NO, THAT'S BECAUSE THE COUNTY WON'T CUT, CUT A CHECK UNTIL THE PROJECT'S BID.
YEAH, I I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
I, DAVID, ERIC, I DON'T, THE ONLY ONE I, IT, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE DORRANCE WOULD THEN BUMP, WE WOULD REFUND THE ALLOCATED TWO 80 IN THE NEXT YEAR.
YEAH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD UH, BASICALLY PUSH OUT THE COMMITTED FUNDING SOURCES, USE WHAT WE'VE GOT WASTEWATER AND THEN IN 24 25 WE WOULD RE START REFUNDING FOR THE DORRANCE PROJECT THROUGH, THROUGH THE GENERAL FOR THE CITY FUND, CITY FUNDS THAT POINT WE'D ALSO POSSIBLY HAVE ADDITIONAL, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS.
UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS 'CAUSE UM, WE, MAYBE IT'S ON THE NEXT POINT, BUT UM, I THINK JOHN HAD MENTIONED IF WE APPROVE THE OVERALL PROJECT WITHOUT THE, UM, LOCKING IN THE AMOUNT, HAVING IT COME BACK TO NICK OR COME BACK TO THE CITY, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING EVERYONE ELSE IS GOOD WITH.
I THINK KNOWING THAT THAT 930 IS WHERE THAT SAVINGS
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IS GONNA COME FROM, BUT AGAIN, WE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE.BUT IF WE DON'T, IF WE WAIT AGAIN, I GUESS WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING NEXT, IS IT NEXT WEEK? WELL I, I'VE GOT CONCERNS WITH AUTHORIZING THE FULL 4.275 WITHOUT SOME SORT OF A HOOK.
SO MY INCLINATION WOULD BE TO AUTHORIZE 4 MILLION OH TWO FIVE TAKING OUT THE TWO 50 THAT I WANT TO SAVE.
LET'S JUST SEE WHAT HE SAYS AND WE TAKE THAT FORWARD AND IF HE'S LIKE, I REALLY CAN'T DO IT FOR THAT, FOR THAT WHATEVER NUMBER HE COMES BACK WITH, THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNSEL.
UM, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
SO, SO, SO WITH THE MOTION BEFORE, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANT TO TALK AND VERIFY THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WHERE THIS MONEY'S COMING FROM.
SO WE'VE GOT 2.549 AND ARPA, I'M SAYING THAT WE'RE USING THE 1.2 9 6 6 4 6 OF EXCESS RESERVES THAT LEAVES $428,000.
OH NO, THAT'S ON THE FULL AMOUNT MINUS TWO 50.
SO THAT LEAVES ABOUT 250,000 SHORT.
AND SO ARE WE UNENCUMBERING THE CITY'S TWO 80 OR ARE WE UNENCUMBERING THE E D C TWO 50? WELL, YOU REALLY CAN'T USE THE E D C MONEY ON THE WASTEWATER PLANT, SO, UM, IT'D REALLY HAVE TO BE THE TWO, THE TWO 80 OKAY.
WELL I'LL, I'LL DISAGREE WITH, WITH NICK ON THAT BECAUSE THAT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, PROBABLY 20% OF OUR USAGE IS FOR COMMERCIAL.
NOW IT MIGHT BE A STRETCH AND WE'D HAVE TO GET THE ATTORNEYS INVOLVED TO VERIFY, BUT THERE COULD POSSIBLY BE SOME USE OF E D C MONEY ON THE TREATMENT PLANT.
BUT IT'S AN EXTRA HURDLE AND IT'S AN EXTRA COMPLICATION.
SO IT'S PROBABLY EASIER TO UNENCUMBER THE CITY FUNDING AND JUST DEAL WITH THAT.
AND THEN IF WE WANT TO RATE E D C, WE RATE IT FOR DORRANCE
I AGREE WITH THAT
AND, AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO GET INTO THAT EXTRA TIME.
SO I'M GONNA SAY UNENCUMBER, THE CITY BUDGET 2324 INFRASTRUCTURE OF TWO 80 WOULD BASICALLY, THAT LEAVES US 84,000 SHORT.
I'LL LEAVE ANNA MARIA TO FIND THAT EXTRA 84,000 FOR US
WELL IF, IF WE FOLLOW YOUR AMENDMENT, WE WON'T NEED THAT.
WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT, IF WE, IF WE ONLY APPROVE FOUR, 4,075,000 OR 4 MILLION, 25,000, THEN WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CUSHION IN THERE.
84 IS, IF WE GO WITH A FULL 4 3 7 4 3 7 5.
NO, HE'S AT, I'M ADDING A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR ENGINEERING.
UM, JOHN, ARE YOU ACTUALLY UNDER CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION SUPPORT RIGHT NOW? ANNA MARIA SAYS YES.
SO
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 4,000,020, UH, 25,000 IF YOU, IF YOU ADD THE 2.54 NOW NINE, WHICH IS ALL THE ARPA MONEY.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD PAY RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? THAT YEAH, WE'RE GETTING THERE.
SO IF YOU ADD THE 2.549, WHICH IS THE FEDERAL AR P AND THE COUNTY ARPA WE JUST GOT, AND THEN YOU ADDED THE 1.296 TO THAT AND THEN YOU ADDED THE TWO 80 FOR NEXT YEAR TO THAT.
THEN YOUR GRAND TOTAL IS 4.125 MILLION.
SO YOU GOT 2.549 IN ARPA MONEY, BOTH THE COUNTY ARPA AND THE FEDERAL ARPA.
THEN THAT 1.296, WHICH IS EVERY PENNY OVER AND ABOVE YOUR SEVEN MONTH RESERVE.
AND THEN WE REALLOCATE THAT 280, WE'RE GONNA GET THIS UPCOMING YEAR TO THE PLANT AND THAT GRAND
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TOTAL IS 4.125 MILLION.SO I, I GOT A GREAT STORY AS TO WHY WE NEED TO DO THIS WHOLE THING WAY, WAY, WAY BACK WHEN WE PULLED THE POOL DOWN TO REDO THE POOL, BUT WE DIDN'T DO THE LIGHTS 'CAUSE IT WAS GONNA COST US AN EXTRA $25,000
SO ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF LATER KID DANG NEAR GOT ELECTROCUTED IN THE POOL AND IT COST US 150,000.
I SEE TWO GATES GETTING REPAIRED AND A BUNCH OF TROUBLE AND MAYBE IFS OR 17 MINUTE GATES BEING DONE AND NOBODY GETS ELECTROCUTED.
'CAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THE, THE FUNDING.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THINK IF COUNCIL AUTHORIZES UH, 4,025,000.
SO I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR.
AND, UM, REAL QUICK, SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT, I STILL HAVE US ON ITEM ONE ACCEPTING THE LETTER OF OF RECOMMENDATION.
I THOUGHT YOU GUYS DID THAT BEFORE I GOT HERE.
WE APPROVE, WE APPROVE THE LETTER AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION TO ACCEPT THE LETTER.
MOTION TO ACCEPT SECOND BAT TO YOU.
ALL RIGHT, JOHN, YOU GOT A LETTER? WHERE DO WE HAVE A LETTER? IT'S IN YOUR BACKPACK.
IT'S IN, IT'S IT'S IN MY PACKET.
ALL RIGHT, WELL THEN WE HAVE ACCEPTED THAT.
LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM C, WHICH IS DISCUSSING CONSIDERATION OF RE RESOLUTION 2 0 2 3 19.
AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH L E M CONSTRUCTION COMPANY IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,025,000 FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
CLA FIRE REHABILITATION PROJECT PER THE RECOMMENDATION OF H D R ENGINEERING.
IS IT THE MAYOR OR THE MAYORS AND CITY SECRETARY OR THE MAYOR AND CITY ADMINISTRATOR? WELL, IT'S USUALLY THE MAYOR AND I IT'S THE MAYOR SIGN THOSE.
YEAH, THE MAYOR SIGNS THAT CITY SECRETARY TESTS.
I MEAN YOU CAN SAY MARIAN CITY SECRETARY.
UM, SO I WILL MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR AND UM, CITY SECRETARY TO ENTER AN AGREEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF 4 MILLION 0 2 5 0 0 0, UM, WITH L E M CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT, CLARIFIER REHABILITATION PROJECT IN THE EVENT.
UH, AND THAT'S THE END OF THE MOTION AND THEN THE OKAY WITH ALTERNATIVES.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THE WITH WITH ALL ALTERNATIVES.
THE BASE BID PLUS ALL ADDITIONAL ALTERNATIVES.
SO THAT'S THE BASE BID PLUS ALL ADD ALTERNATES.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IF AFTER THE NEGOTIATIONS, UH, YOU NEED TO, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL.
WELL IF JOHN'S ANY GOOD, WE WON'T HAVE TO GET BACK
SO WITH THAT WE'VE HAD A MOTION A SECOND.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
JOHN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNSEL.
I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MUCH, HOW GRATEFUL I AM THAT WE CHOSE TO GO THIS WAY.
I'VE BEEN AGONIZING OVER THIS SINCE WE TOOK THE AERATORS DOWN IN THE PLANT AND I KNEW THIS DAY WAS COMING.
I LOOK FORWARD TODAY WHEN I CAN FLIP A QUARTER OFF THE BACK OF THAT THING AND SEE IT LAYING ON THE BOTTOM OF THE CLARIFIER.
'CAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS WHEN I TOOK OVER AND I WANT TO LEAVE IT THAT WAY.
ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT I'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM D AND IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY OBJECTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED.