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[Special City Council Meeting]
RIGHT.MY APOLOGIES FOR BEING LATE, BUT THIS IS TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 15TH, 2022.
IT, IT IS 6:35 PM AT, UH, CITY OF, UH, MEADOWS PLACE, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
AND THIS IS, UH, ITEM A IS, UH, CALLED ORDER AND ANNOUNCE THAT QUORUM IS PRESENT.
WE HAVE, UH, FULL COUNSEL THIS EVENING.
WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY HERE TO GIVE US OUR INVOCATION AND JIMMY FENWICK.
AND, UH, WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT'LL OFFER TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OUT OF THE, OH, WHO, WHO ARE YOU POINTING AT? CAMERON.
COLLEEN'S GONNA LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND THEN JIMMY FRICK'S GONNA LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION.
PLEASE STAND PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE NATION.
UM, THE, IS JUST, THAT'S HOW WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HERE TODAY.
DON, WE, YOU WONDERFUL CITY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US AND WAY THAT YOU WATCHED TO CITY.
WE, FOR ALL THE OFFICIALS, WILL VOLUNTEERS, THE SERVANTS CALL THOSE WHO POUR INTO THE CITY, FLEE ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS AS THE WEATHER.
WE THINK THAT, AND IT'S A REMINDER OF ALL THE THINGS CONTINUE TO ALL ARE, ARE VISIT THIS PLACE.
THANK RETURN TO YOUR BUSINESS, JUST PRESENTLY, ALL THE CONVERSATIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JIM, AND THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE ASSISTANCE THERE, CAPTAIN NATION, AND POINTING OUT COLLEEN TO LEAD THE PLEDGE.
UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM BS POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, REPORTS OR REPORTS.
NUMBER ONE IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I SEE CHIEF GARY STEWART MOVING UP TOWARD THE MICROPHONE.
UM, AS ALWAYS, WE STARTED A REPORT, UH, WITH A NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS.
UH, AND I DO DO WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THE REPORTING PERIOD IS SHORTER TONIGHT.
SO THE, THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIS SKEW.
UH, NUMBER ARREST, SIX, UH, NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE IS 2381.
NUMBER REPORTS 52, UH, NUMBER OF TRAFFIC, UH, CITATIONS ISSUED FOR TRAFFIC.
336 WITH CHARGES OF 521 0 CITY ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS.
CITATIONS WERE ISSUED, UH, WARNINGS FOR TRAFFIC WERE 95 CHARGES OF 1 26 WARNINGS FOR CITY ORDINANCE VIOLATION WERE 10 FOR A TOTAL ACTIVITY.
3,107, UH, ASSAULTS FOR THE MONTH.
WE, UH, HAD TWO, ONE BURGLARY MOTOR VEHICLE, AS YOU SEE THAT'S DOWN, UH, ZERO BURGLARY BUSINESS OR RESIDENCE.
UH, WE HAD THE 10, UM, CITY ORDINANCE, ONE CRIMINAL MISCHIEF, TWO FRAUDS, ZERO ROBBERIES.
TOTAL PROPERTY CHECKS THIS PAST MONTH WERE 1422 4 THEFTS, UH, AND ZERO UVS, UH, FOR OUR TLC PROGRAM, THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD 93 THAT PASSED, 30 FAILURE FOR TOTAL CONTACT OF 123.
UH, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, YOU COULD SEE THE BREAKDOWN FOR THE CO V UH, CITY ORDINANCE, UH, VIOLATION BREAKDOWN FOR WARNINGS ISSUED.
WE HAD SIX FOR SOLICITOR, THREE FOR NOISE, ONE FOR LU'S DOG, AND NO CITATIONS ISSUED THAT.
AND GOING BACK TO THE ACCIDENT AS THERE WERE ZERO IN THE ROUNDABOUTS.
AGAIN, MOVING ON TO THE CHIEF'S NOTES, WE'LL GET DOWN TO THE GOOD PART.
UM, IF WE'LL START ON PAGE, UM, THREE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE FLOCK HITS, TOTAL FLOCK SAFETY ALERTS, UH, 89 AND TOTAL.
TWO GANG MEMBERS SUSPECTED TERRORISTS.
UH, THREE MISSING PERSON, ONE WARRANT.
SIX FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER ALERTS.
UH, ONE AND 21 FOR HOT, UH, ALERTS OUT OF OTHER AGENCIES, ZERO AND VIOLENT PERSONS ON OUR ARREST BREAKDOWN.
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THIS PRETTY QUICK.UH, WE HAD SIX ADULT ARRESTS, ZERO JUVENILE, UH, AGAIN, A SHORT REPORTING PERIOD, BUT WE HAD THREE FOR DWI AND THREE FOR WARRANTS OUT OF OTHER JURISDICTION.
AND WE CAN MOVE TO PAGE SIX, THE LAST PAGE FOR ADDITIONAL NOTES.
UH, AS WE ALWAYS DO THIS AT THE TIME OF YEAR, REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
AND AS WE LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, WHILE YOU'RE SHOPPING, THE BAD GUYS ARE SHOPPING TOO.
SO KEEP YOUR ITEMS HIDDEN AND OUTTA SIGHT.
UH, MESA DOOR ACCESS SYSTEM, UH, WE'RE STILL FINISHING UP PHASE ONE.
THERE'S A CONTROL BOARD ISSUE THAT'S GOTTA BE ADJUSTED FOR CITY HALL SIDE FOR THAT TO WORK.
UH, SHOULD BE, UH, IN A FEW DAYS WHEN THEY GET THE PART IN.
UH, AND THEN PART TWO WILL START SCHEDULED, UH, FOR PHASE TWO IS MOSTLY THE EXTERIOR DOORS.
AND THAT'LL START SOMETIME SHORTLY AFTER THAT.
UH, WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING STILL TO FILL OUR FOUR FULL-TIME POSITIONS.
ONE PART-TIME, UM, WITH GOOD NEWS THOUGH, IS WE HAVE ONE OF OUR PPOS PROBATIONARY POLICE OFFICERS.
HE JUST, UH, COMPLETED THE FTO PROGRAM FIELD TRAINING AND JUST GOT RELEASED TO PATROL.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, STARTED A SENIOR POLICE OFFICER PROGRAM.
UH, THIS IS DESIGNED FOR OUR SENIOR OFFICERS THAT HAVE MET CERTAIN CRITERIA AND TRAINING TO BE ABLE TO STEP UP TO A SUPERVISOR ROLE IN THE ABSENCE OF A SHIFT SERGEANT.
AND THIS IS KIND OF A MANDATE THAT WE, WHETHER WE WANTED TO OR NOT, IT, IT CAME THROUGH, UH, OUR REGULATORY AGENCIES THAT THIS HAS, UH, HAD TO BE HANDLED.
OUR NEW PD VEHICLES ARE FINALLY HERE.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME ISSUES WHERE WE HAD TO SEND 'EM BACK A FEW TIMES, AND IT WAS MAINLY WITH THE UPFITTING, NOT THE VEHICLE ITSELF.
UH, THOSE ISSUES, UM, AT THIS POINT LOOKED TO HAVE BEEN RECTIFIED.
UH, BUT WE ARE STILL GONNA TEST THEM FOR ANOTHER WEEK OR SO BEFORE WE TURN OVER ANY OF THE OTHER REMAINING VEHICLES TO THE OTHER, UH, DEPARTMENTS.
UM, HALLOWEEN, IT WENT WELL, UH, RECEIVED SOME, A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS, SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND ESPECIALLY ABOUT OUR PRESENCE AND VISIBILITY.
WE HAD ZERO INCIDENTS, UM, WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS MAKES 10 CONSECUTIVE YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD NO SIGNIFICANT INCIDENTS DURING HALLOWEEN.
AND I DO THINK THAT'S THE SATURATION OF OFFICERS THAT MAKES THAT DIFFERENCE.
AND WE'RE PREPARING FOR CHRISTMAS MEMORIES.
UH, THIS IS ANOTHER MAJOR EVENT, UH, THAT REQUIRES MASSIVE RESOURCES FROM THE PD THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AS WE WORK WITH PARKS AND REC AND DURING THEIR SETUP, MAINTAIN SECURITY AND TRAFFIC CONTROL PRIOR TO THE EVENT.
UM, AND FOR THE EVENT, THE PREPARATIONS ARE MADE FOR RESOURCES TO BE DEPLOYED FOR THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS SECURITY.
OF COURSE, SANTA TRANSPORTATION, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, UH, AND THE TEAR DOWN OF THE EVENT AFTERWARDS.
BUT, UH, REASON I MENTIONED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WE ALSO COORDINATE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, EMS, FORT BEND COUNTY, AND OTHER AGENCIES.
AND WE ALSO PUT TOGETHER AN INCIDENT ACTION PLAN, AS WITH EVERY MAJOR EVENT THAT WE DO IN THE CITY.
AND I KNOW I'VE MENTIONED THAT TO Y'ALL BEFORE, AND Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THOSE, BUT THAT IS PART OF IT.
THAT'S ABOUT 90% COMPLETE RIGHT NOW.
SO WE ARE WORKING TO FINISH THAT UP BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT COLLEEN'S GONNA LET YOU KNOW ON DECEMBER 2ND, WE'LL HAVE OUR CHRISTMAS MEMORIES WITH THAT.
THAT IS DURING THE REPORTING PERIOD.
SO IT, IF YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOUR REPORTING PERIOD IS FROM THE 25TH TO THE 14TH.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S, UH, A LOT SMALLER THAN THOSE ARE NUMBERS FOR THIS REPORTING PERIOD.
THIS REPORT COVERS PARKS AND RECREATION ACTIVITIES FROM OCTOBER THROUGH NOVEMBER.
UH, IT'S A SHORTER TIME PERIOD BECAUSE I PRESENTED MY FULL STAFF TO YOU GUYS, UM, IN SEPTEMBER.
SO SINCE THEN, UH, WE HAVE ONE OPEN POSITION FOR GROUNDS MAINTENANCE.
UM, CURRENTLY, UH, WE HAVE PUT THAT NOTIFICATION OUT FOR HIRE.
IT'S BEEN OUT NOW FOR, UM, NEARLY THREE WEEKS.
UM, WE ALSO HAD ONE POSITION FOR THE RECREATION COORDINATOR THAT WAS FORMALLY FRANK BIRCH.
HE, UM, HAS PROPOSED TO HIS GIRLFRIEND AND THEY HAVE MOVED TO NORTH CAROLINA, SO WE WISH HIM WELL.
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FILL THAT POSITION WITH KRISTEN'S, UH, STMI.SHE IS A, A RESIDENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SHE ALSO, UM, IS IN CHARGE OF THE CHILDREN'S GARDEN.
UH, SHE'S ALREADY MADE SOME REALLY, UM, POSITIVE CHANGES OVER AT THE NATURE CENTER.
SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY THAT SHE'S WITH US AND LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, WHAT'S TO COME.
UM, OUR EVENT RECAP FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS, WE HAD REC THE NIGHT ON OCTOBER 8TH.
REC THE NIGHT IS A NEW PROGRAM WE STARTED FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.
UH, WE HAD ABOUT 15 KIDS COME OUT, PLAY KICKBALL PIZZA, UM, AND JUST HANG OUT.
UM, AND REALLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, CREATE AS A POSITIVE ACTIVITY FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, UM, TO GET INVOLVED WITH, BUT THEN ALSO TO CONNECT THEM INTO VOLUNTEERISM.
UM, SO TO CONNECT THEM TO OUR ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS THAT COME UP AND, AND, UM, HOPEFULLY UTILIZE THEM FOR THAT PROGRAM.
UH, WE ALSO HAD OUR FALL FESTIVAL.
UM, IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL THIS YEAR.
UM, I BELIEVE WE ESTIMATE CLOSE TO A THOUSAND, IS THAT RIGHT? CHIEF? UH, CLOSE TO A THOUSAND PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE.
THE VENDORS WERE VERY PLEASED.
UM, A LOT OF KIDS OUT THERE RUNNING AROUND.
THE WEATHER WAS A LITTLE ON THE WARM SIDE, BUT IT WAS STILL A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
AND THE STEIN CONTEST ALSO, UH, WENT OFF REALLY WELL.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAD THE PUMPKIN PATCH, AND THAT WAS THE TWO LAST WEEKENDS, OR THE LAST TWO WEEKS IN OCTOBER.
UM, AND THEY GENERATED OVER $600 IN REVENUE, WHICH IS REALLY EXCEPTIONAL.
SO THEIR FIRST YEAR, AND IT WAS A SMALL PUMPKIN PATCH, BUT ALL THOSE FUNDS GO TO THE, UM, CHILDREN'S GARDEN.
THIS IS, UM, THEY ORGANIZED IT, THEY RAN IT.
UM, SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THAT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING THAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
AND CHRISTIAN STMI IS RUNNING THAT AS WELL, CORRECT? YES.
NOW THAT FOLLOW, UH, GOES UNDERNEATH HER HER JOB.
UM, WE ALSO HAD THE SYMPHONIC QUARTET OR ACTUAL DUO, UM, IN OCTOBER AND IN NOVEMBER.
UM, IT WAS A VERY BEAUTIFUL EVENT.
IF YOU DIDN'T GO, I WOULD HONESTLY HAVE TO SAY YOU MISSED OUT.
UM, PABLO, HE'S ONE OF OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS, AMAZING ON THE VIOLIN.
AND THEN, UM, WE ALSO HAD THE PIANO PERFORMANCE.
CATHERINE, I BELIEVE WAS HER NAME, KATIE, CATHERINE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.
UM, UM, SEVERAL FROM THE COMMUNITY CAME OUT AND ALSO FAMILY MEMBERS, UM, CAME TO, TO SEE AS WELL.
IT HAD A TOUCH OF ELEGANCE, DIDN'T IT? IT DID HAVE A TOUCH OF ELEGANCE.
UM, PROJECTS COMPLETED OVER THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF.
UM, WE PUT NEW DECKING AND RAILING ALONG THE LAKE BRIDGE.
SO ALL OF THAT IS NEW, UPDATED AND SECURE.
UM, THE NEW IRRIGATION AT CITY HALL COMMUNITY CENTER AND MCDONALD PARK HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
UM, I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE NOW AT CITY HALL, WE CAN BEGIN TO, UM, DO OUR PREPARATIONS TO MOVE IN THE DRY RIVER BEDS AND BOULDERS AND SOME OF THE SHADE PLANTING THAT WE PLAN ON DOING ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
UH, WE ALSO TRIMMED, UM, OR HAD TRIMMED 260 PLUS TREES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND PARKS AND THE CITY CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS ARE 75% IN PLACE NOW.
UM, THEY SHOULD BE FINISHED UP BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, IF NOT EARLY NEXT WEEK.
AND THAT'S, UH, WHAT'S REMAINING IS THE CHRISTMAS TREE AND THE BANNERS ON WEST AIRPORT.
WE HAVE TO RENT A LIFT TO BE ABLE TO DO BOTH OF THOSE.
OUR TREE IS NOW, WHAT DO WE SAY, MAYOR, 18 FEET, UM, WITH THE TOPPER.
SO YEAH, MY FOLKS CAN'T REACH THAT TALL, SO WE'LL BE GETTING A, A LIFT.
AND THEN, UH, LASTLY ON THE PROJECTS, UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T COME BY THE NATURE CENTER, WE DO HAVE A NEW GOAT.
UH, AND THAT'S AS BIG AS HE'S GONNA GET.
HAVE YOU SEEN HIM? HE'S ADORABLE ACTUALLY.
UM, SO YES, THAT'S THOR UPCOMING ACTIVITIES.
THIS FRIDAY NIGHT IS OUR DROP IN SHOP.
SO, UH, FOR THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE LITTLE ONES, IF YOU WANT TO GO ON A DATE NIGHT OR NEED TO GO SHOPPING, DROP YOUR KIDS OFF.
AT THE NATURE CENTER, OUR STAFF WILL BE, UM, PROVIDING DINNER ACTIVITIES, CRAFTS IN A MOVIE.
AND THAT, I BELIEVE IS FROM FIVE 30 TO NINE 30 ON FRIDAY NIGHT.
UH, WE ALSO ARE PARTNERING WITH MEADOWS ELEMENTARY FOR A FOOD, FOOD, AND CLOTHING DROP.
UM, WE ARE TAKING DONATIONS IN OUR FRONT LOBBY.
WE'LL ALSO BE DOING IT AT CHRISTMAS MEMORIES.
AND THEN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS DOING IT AS WELL.
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DECEMBER 9TH.THAT'LL BE IN FRONT OF THE NATURE CENTER.
SO, UM, ENCOURAGE KIDDOS, GRANDKIDS, ANYONE TO DROP THEIR LETTER OFF IN FRONT OF THE NATURE CENTER.
AND THEN, AS CHIEF MENTIONED, CHRISTMAS MEMORIES IS DECEMBER 2ND.
THAT'S THE FIRST FRIDAY IN DECEMBER.
AND WE WILL HAVE A FEW SURPRISES THIS YEAR THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN, UM, YEARS PAST.
AND MORE ALONG THE LINES OF, UM, OUR NEW, NEW TECHNOL, UGH, EXCUSE ME.
OUR NEW TECHNOLOGY, L E D LIGHTING, WILL HAVE A DANCE FLOOR THAT'S ILLUMINATED IN FRONT OF THE LIVE BAND.
UM, WILL ALSO HAVE SOME ACTIVITIES ALONG OUR CHRISTMAS WALKING TRAIL THAT GOES AROUND THE LAKE.
UM, IT'LL BE ILLUMINATED SWINGS, ILLUMINATED SEESAWS.
UM, SO SOME REALLY FUN THINGS THIS YEAR TO, UM, KIND OF JAZZ IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
THEN OUR, UM, WE'LL BE DOING A SECOND DROP IN SHOP DURING THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.
OUR RAINBOW TROUT STOCKING, UM, WILL OCCUR DURING THE WEEK OF THE FIFTH THROUGH THE NINTH.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS VAGUE, BUT WE RELY UPON, UM, THE FISHERY TO LET US KNOW WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, THE TEMPERATURE OF THE LAKE HAS TO BE RIGHT.
UM, WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WE'VE HAD SOME COOL DAYS HERE AND STILL PLAN ON HAVING MORE LAST YEAR, AS Y'ALL KNOW, IT WAS IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES UP UNTIL DECEMBER.
SO WE GOT THE FISH MUCH LATER IN THE YEAR.
BUT WE'LL KEEP YOU, UM, APPRAISED OF THAT.
AND I'LL WORK WITH CAMERON TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW.
AND THEN FINALLY, OUR NATURE CENTER WINTER HOURS, UM, THOSE ARE CHANGING.
SO AS IT GETS DARKER NOW, WE'VE REALIZED PEOPLE AREN'T COMING ONCE IT GETS DARK.
BASICALLY WE'RE DOING A TUESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY NIGHT FROM THREE 30 TO FIVE 30.
SO THAT'LL CAPTURE THE AFTERSCHOOL KIDS.
AND THEN A WEDNESDAY AND A SATURDAY ARE 10 TO THREE.
SO WE HAVEN'T TAKEN AWAY DAYS.
WE'VE JUST ADJUSTED SOME HOURS.
AND THEN THE LAST THING IS OUR AGREEMENT WITH CENTER POINT, UM, FOR OUR LANDSCAPE RIGHTS.
UM, THAT AFFECTS OUR CURRENT TRAIL SYSTEM BETWEEN DORRANCE AND MONTECITO, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, LIGHT POLES, WE HAVE 11 LIGHT POLES, THREE PARK BENCHES, THREE TRASH CANS, AND 13 LARGE BOULDERS.
THEY'VE REQUESTED THAT WE MOVE THOSE AND THEY WILL NOT SIGN OFF ONTO OUR LEASE AGREEMENT UNTIL WE DO.
UM, THAT'S OKAY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE OLD TRAIL.
WE STILL HAVE THE NEW TRAIL COMING IN.
SO THE GREAT THING IS WE CAN REPURPOSE ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. A LOT OF THOSE BOULDERS ARE GONNA BE COMING HERE TO CITY HALL.
THAT WILL GO INTO OUR LANDSCAPE SCHEME.
UM, CHIEF AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHERE WE COULD PLACE SOME OF THOSE LIGHTS, UM, TO, TO BRING MORE, UM, LIGHT TO SOME OF THE PLAYGROUND AREAS THAT WILL HELP THEM, THAT'LL HELP OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, AND THEN THE BENCHES WILL DISPERSE THROUGH SOME OF THE PARKS.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA LOSE ANYTHING.
IT'S JUST GONNA HAVE TO BE RELOCATED.
AND WE HAVE TWO WEEKS TO COMPLETE THAT TASK, WHICH SALVES AND HIS CAREER ARE GONNA ACTUALLY HELP US DO THAT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL,
JUST AS A FOLLOW UP TO COLLEEN, UM, THE CENTER POINT PIPELINE THAT'S COMING, THAT'S GONNA TAKE OUT THAT EXISTING TRAIL.
I STILL DON'T HAVE A SCHEDULE FOR WHEN THEY'RE GONNA START WORKING ON THE NORTH SOUTH PIECE, BUT THEY, UM, ARE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO START WORKING ON THE EASTWEST PIECE.
THAT IS GONNA GO FROM THE COUNTY LINE TO SOUTH OF DULLS.
AND THAT'S GONNA TIE INTO THAT, UM, POWER LINE EASEMENT OR POWER STRIP THAT COMES THROUGH TOWN.
THEY'LL COME UP NORTH, GO ALL THE WAY UP TO SINK RANCH AREA, AND THEN CUT WEST ACROSS THE COUNTY.
SO, I MEAN, WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO IS GONNA IMPACT THE ENTIRE COUNTY ON THEIR FEE STRIPS.
BUT LIKE I SAID, I STILL DON'T HAVE A SCHEDULE ON WHEN THAT'S GONNA START.
UM, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THEY'RE, THEY WANT EVERYTHING OUT OF THE WAY.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WHEN THEY DO COME THROUGH AND THEY HAVE TIGHTENED DOWN ON WHAT THEY WILL ALLOW, UM, AGENCIES TO DO.
THAT PIPELINE IS GONNA, ONCE THEY GET STARTED, THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO GO MM-HMM.
AND, UH, THEY TELL, EXPLAINED TO US, THEY WOULDN'T BE STOPPING OR ASKING.
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COLLEEN? UM, I LIKE THE, UH, CHANGES YOU'VE MADE UP THERE WITH, UH, KRISTIN SNAY RECRUITING HER.I'VE SEEN HER IN ACTION A FEW TIMES AND, UH, I THINK SHE'S GONNA BE A HUGE ASSET FOR THE CITY.
SO I CONGRATULATE YOU ON THAT.
UM, I DO, AND I, I HATE TO DO THE BLINDSIDE YOU, BUT I KNOW YOU WERE GONNA TALK WITH ROD ABOUT KIRKWOOD.
UH, IF YOU COULD GIMME AN UPDATE ON THAT TOMORROW, I'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
ANYBODY ELSE? OH, THE FALL FESTIVAL.
JUST GOOD JOB WITH YOU AND YOUR TEAM ON, ON PULLING THAT OFF.
HAVING A THOUSAND PEOPLE OUT THERE WAS, I THINK THAT WAS THE BIGGEST EVENT I'VE EVER SEEN.
MAYBE 4TH OF JULY, BUT IT WAS DAYTIME.
NEXT YEAR, MAYBE YOU'LL DO THIS TIME HOLDING CONTEST WITH US
UM, I, I WANT TO, UH, PIGGYBACK ON THAT COMMENT AND GO TO INCORPORATE SOME OF HOW THE CITY AND OUR PARTS DEPARTMENT AND OUR NEW COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER SO WELL.
COLLEEN AND CAMERON GOT TOGETHER FOR PRE-EVENT PROMOTION, ANNOUNCED IT ON THE DAY, AND THEN DID AMAZING FOLLOW UP STUFF.
WE HAD STUFF POSTED ON THE EVENT BEFORE Y'ALL EVEN GOT CLEANED UP.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE THINGS, I KNOW ALL THE COUNCIL HAS, I'M SPEAKING TO THE THOUSANDS OF, OF YOU OUT IN THE PUBLIC OUT HERE THAT MAY NOT HAVE SEEN IT.
UH, OUR VIDEOS ON, ON THAT EVENT ARE FANTASTIC AND MAKE ME LOOK FORWARD TO CHRISTMAS MEMORIES ANYMORE.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE UPDATE AND, AND, UH, ALL THE EFFORT THAT Y'ALL, YOU AND YOUR PARKS DEPARTMENT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO A SECRET? NO, IT'S NOT A SECRET, WOULD YOU? NO, GO AHEAD.
CAMERON, ARE YOU SPEAKING TONIGHT? NO.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE FINE DETAILS THAT YOU DO, MAYOR AND CAMERON, BUT I'LL DO MY BEST.
UH, DANIEL IS, UM, ONE OF OUR FULL-TIME STAFF, UM, IN THE PARKS.
AND HE ACTUALLY, UM, VOLUNTEERS AT THE WAR MUSEUM OVER IN NORTH SHORE, I BELIEVE IT IS.
AND NOT JUST DOES HE VOLUNTEER, HE ACTUALLY IS REBUILDING HUMMERS AND PLANES AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
HE'S VERY, HE'S VERY INVOLVED AND, UM, HAS A PART OF THAT DURING THE, UM, HOUSTON ASTROS, UH, THE PARADE DOWNTOWN AFTER THE WORLD SERIES, UM, THAT MUSEUM WAS INVITED TO COME AND USE SOME OF THEIR VEHICLES IN THE PARADE TO CARRY DIGNITARIES.
WELL, DANIEL, OUR, DANIEL WAS ONE OF THEM.
AND HE DROVE A OPEN BED HUMMER, I BELIEVE IT WAS, AND, UM, HAD THE DA AND SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS, A LOT OF THE DIGNITARIES IN THE BACK OF HIS VEHICLE.
AND, UH, JUST REALLY HAD A GREAT TIME.
LIEUTENANT REPRESENTED MEADOWS PLACE VERY WELL.
AND THEN, UM, CAMERON DID A STORY ON HIM, AND THAT'S ON FACEBOOK.
BUT WE'RE REAL PROUD OF DANIEL AND HIS COMMITMENT AND WHAT HE DOES IN HIS SPARE TIME.
AND I, AND I LEARNED AT IT CAUSE HE BROUGHT ME BACK AN ASTRO OWL, ONE OF THE, THAT THEY GAVE OUT TO HAND OUT TO ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE PARADE.
AND HE THOUGHT, CUZ WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
AND HE KNEW I WAS AN ASTRO FAN AND GAVE ME ONE.
AND SO I SAID, OH, WHERE'D YOU GET THAT? HE SAID, AT THE PARADE, I WENT, YOU WENT TO THE PARADE? HE WENT, YES, SIR.
I WAS DRIVING IN IT AND DRIVING IN IT.
YES, IT TOOK PLACE IN THE VEHICLE.
FLEW UP FROM HIM AND HE SAW IT HAPPEN.
SO HE WAS RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
AND, UH, IT, IT GOT GREAT RECEPTION ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA STUFF THANKS TO CAMERON.
UM, AND IT WAS ALSO, UH, WELL RECEIVED AT THE, UH, UH, FORT BEND COUNTY MAYOR AND COUNCIL ASSOCIATION.
EVERYBODY GAVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
SO PLEASE GIVE THAT TO HIM AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR THAT.
AND WITH THAT WILL SET UP CUZ I CAN JUST KEEP TALKING.
AND IT'S MY TURN FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REPORT.
AND BOY, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THIS IS GONNA BE REAL SIMPLE.
AND THIS IS A SHORTER REPORTING PERIOD.
AND WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT WE GOT THEM NEW AIR CONDITIONERS, AIR CONDITIONERS, UM, IT'S BEEN, YEP.
THERE'S, ACCORDING TO THE FLASH REPORT, THEY'VE BEEN INSTALLED, THEY'VE BEEN THERE 16 YEARS AND WE'VE HAD TROUBLE WITH THEM FOR 16 YEARS.
UM, FOUND OUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'D
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OVERSIZED IT.AND SO WE WERE PUSHING SEVEN TON UNITS WHERE WE NEEDED TO HAVE A MAX OF FIVE.
SO HOPEFULLY, UM, IT'LL, UH, IT'LL MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPIER AND KEEP, UH, KEEP CONTROLLED A LITTLE BETTER.
BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT GOING ON WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AS USUAL, UH, AND WE THINK OF THEM VERY MUCH FOR ALL THEIR EFFORTS.
AND NEXT IS, UH, ITEM FOUR, CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT.
UH, TWO QUICK ITEMS. NUMBER ONE, UH, YOU MAY REMEMBER, COUNSEL, A FEW MEETINGS AGO YOU AUTHORIZED US TO DO, UH, JANITORIAL BIDS.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, UH, THAT BIDDING HAS CLOSED AND WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED NO BIDS ON THAT.
AND SO, UM, AT THIS POINT, UH, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO REGROUP.
UH, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A STANDING AGREEMENT WITH OUR EXISTING, UH, COMPANY, SO WE'RE GOING MONTH TO MONTH WITH THEM.
UM, SO WE'RE FINE ON THAT END, BUT WE'LL REGROUP AND FIGURE OUT, UH, WHEN AND HOW TO, TO ADDRESS THAT, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
SO I WANTED YOU ALL TO, TO KNOW THAT.
UM, SECOND ITEM, I WANT TO GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT AND I WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, ON RECORD, UM, THE HARD WORK THAT SEVERAL OF OUR STAFF DID THIS WEEK ON IMPLEMENTING Y'ALL'S NEW POLICY ON UTILITY DISCONNECTS.
YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION A FEW WEEKS AGO.
UM, WANNA RECOGNIZE, UH, COURTNEY ANNA, MARIA LILLY ELA, AND OUR ENTIRE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM FOR GETTING TOGETHER AND COORDINATING AND WORKING AS A TEAM TO MAKE SURE IT WENT SMOOTHLY.
UH, COURTNEY SENT YOU AN EMAIL OUT A FEW DAYS AGO.
WE DID GET, UH, WE DID DO NINE DISCONNECTS.
UM, AND I THINK IT WAS A REALLY SUCCESSFUL, UH, EFFORT BECAUSE OF THOSE NINE, THREE OF THOSE IMMEDIATELY CAME IN AND PAID IN FULL THAT DAY.
UM, AND THEY WERE NOT SMALL CHECKS.
I MEAN, IT WAS AROUND 800 BUCKS, 1500 BUCKS, 600 BUCKS, UH, FOR THOSE THAT DID COME IN.
SO THAT WAS A NICE WAY TO, UH, REMIND THEM THAT THEY HAD SOME DELINQUENT UTILITY BILLING ACCOUNTS AND THEY CAME IN AND, AND TOOK CARE OF IT.
UH, THE OTHER THREE, WE HAD SIX MORE LEFT.
UH, THREE OF 'EM, UH, WE, WE, UH, IDENTIFIED THEM AS BEING VACANT.
AND SO WE WENT AHEAD AND FILED FINALED OUT THAT SERVICE.
AND THEN WE STILL GOT THREE TO FOLLOW UP ON BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CONTACT WITH THEM.
SO IT MAY VERY WELL BE THAT THOSE HOUSES ARE VACANT.
SO WE'LL DO SOME FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
BUT WANTED TO GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO OUR STAFF FOR, FOR DELIBERATELY GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS BECAUSE, UM, IT TAKES A LOT OF COORDINATION, UH, AMONGST MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT CORRECTLY.
AND I THINK IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
SO, UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT TONIGHT.
ANYBODY GOT A QUESTION FOR NICK? SO OUR EXISTING COMPANY DIDN'T BID ON OUR CLEANING EITHER.
SO DID THEY GIVE US A REASON? DID THEY, THEY DIDN'T, DID THEY? AND THEY, NOTHING.
WE TOLD 'EM WE WERE GOING OUT FOR BID, BUT THEY DIDN'T SUBMIT ANYTHING.
SO, I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING DAY TO DAY WITH THEM, BUT ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON.
GOOD QUESTION, NICK HERE, RICK, UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO SAY MAYOR'S COMMENTS IS ITEM C UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL COMMENTS? UM, I WANT TO FIRST OFF, UH, SAY HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO EVERYBODY AND WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S START OF A JOYFUL TIME OF THE YEAR.
UM, A LOT OF FUSS AND A LOT OF GETTING TOGETHER, A LOT OF STRESS, SOMETIMES TRYING TO GET FAMILIES TO COORDINATE WITH ONE ANOTHER TO GET FROM HERE TO THERE TO ALL OVER.
BUT IT'S, UH, IT ENDS UP WITH, UH, BREAKING BREAD WITH FAMILY ON THANKSGIVING'S.
ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS WE DO, AND I WANT TO, UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, GEORGE WASHINGTON'S NATIONAL THANKSGIVING DAY PROCLAMATION OF 1789 WAS THE FIRST FORMAL PROCLAMATION OF THANKSGIVING IN THE UNITED STATES.
IF YOU'VE NEVER READ IT, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO.
UM, I READ IT EVERY YEAR AND I'M ALWAYS INSPIRED.
UM, AND I, UH, I ENJOY IT AND, UH, I'LL ENJOY IT THIS YEAR WITH MY FAMILY.
CAUSE I'VE READ IT TO MY FAMILY FOR YEARS AND I'M GONNA HAVE 'EM TOGETHER.
I VISITED WITH, UH, CAMERON ABOUT THIS.
AND, UH, CITY OF MEADS PLACE WILL BE DOING SOME SORT OF A POSTING OR GETTING IT OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY.
SO AGAIN, I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO READ THAT.
THAT'S, UH, GEORGIA WASHINGTON'S, UH, THANKSGIVING PROCLAMATION IS 1789.
UM, ITEM NUMBER B IS ELECTIONS.
AND, UH, WITH ALL THE BACK BITING, GRIPING AND COMPLAINING, SOMETIMES WE SEE ON THE NEWS.
AND THEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA, SOMETIMES IT'S EASY TO FORGET WHAT AN AMAZING
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EVENT JUST TRANSPIRED.A TRANSFER OF POWER WITHOUT VIOLENCE, WITHOUT A WAR, WITHOUT HAVING A VOLATILE OVERTHROW OF A GOVERNMENT IS AN AMAZING THING.
OUR FOUNDING FATHER SET THIS THING UP WONDERFULLY.
AND EVEN THOUGH THERE'S SOME PEOPLE GRIPING ABOUT SOMEBODY'S BALLOT BEING LATER THAN OTHERS, ET CETERA, IT IS AN AWE INSPIRING EVENT IF WE JUST TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT JUST HAPPENED.
IT, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AMAZING THING THAT THIS COUNTRY DOES LOCALLY.
UH, FORT BEND COUNTY DID A VERY GOOD PRO JOB OF IT.
MEADOWS PLACE WAS A GREAT POLLING PLACE.
I CAME IN AND LOOKED, AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAD TO CHANGE OUR ELECTION, JUDGE MIDSTREAM, UM, COURTNEY AND THE ELECTION STAFF DID A GREAT JOB, UH, IN HANDLING THE, THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC TO MAKE, ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS AND TO, UH, HANDLE SOMETIMES TENSE SITUATIONS.
IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO VOTE THAT DIDN'T BELONG HERE, THEY BELONG IN HARRIS COUNTY, AND, BUT I'M HERE.
WELL, YOU DON'T BELONG HERE, GO AWAY.
THAT DIDN'T NOW IT WAS DONE BY THEM.
UH, THEY WERE MUCH BETTER AT, UH, ENGAGING THEIR, THE FOLKS AND HELPING THEM OUT, AND I WAS REALLY, REALLY PROUD OF THAT.
UH, SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COURTNEY.
YOU'D PASS IT ON TO THE ELECTION JUDGES AND EVERYBODY THAT, UH, THAT, UH, PARTICIPATED HERE AT MEADOWS PLACE.
BUT FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T SEE IT EVERY DAY, IT WAS, IT WAS QUITE SOMETHING TO SEE.
THEY, THEY ROCK AND ROLL THROUGH WITH THAT.
UH, I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO.
UH, I BELIEVE IS, UH, RICK'S, OH NO, THAT'S COUNCIL COMMENTS, NOT JUST RICK'S COMMENT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING NEW ON DORRANCE, IT'S JUST PRO PROGRESSING ALONG.
I THINK WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT JANUARY FOR CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION.
UM, AS LONG AS WE DON'T GET ANY SIGNIFICANT RAIN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON DORRANCE? UM, I DO, I CAN'T STAND IT.
I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GONNA GO WITH THE INTERSECTION.
I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT, BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT YES.
I DO ACTUALLY, I DO HAVE A, UH, A QUESTION.
LAST TIME WHEN WE MET NICK, YOU MENTIONED THAT WE SPOKE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT CHANGING THE BUS STOP.
THAT HAPPENED ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO.
UM, AND SEVERAL KIDS MISSED THE BUS BECAUSE THEY DID NOT KNOW THAT IT WAS MOVED OVER A STREET.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY TAKEN CARE OF ITSELF NOW.
EVERYBODY IN THAT AREA PRETTY MUCH KNOWS.
UM, BUT IT DEFINITELY DID THROW A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WHEN THAT CONVERSATION WAS HAD, THEY JUST WENT AHEAD AND PULLED THE TRIGGER AND MOVED THE BUS STOP.
BUT COULD HAVE BEEN, I MEAN, I KNOW WHEN WE CONTACTED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, LET THEM NOTHING TO DO THAT.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN AN INITIATIVE ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO DO IT.
LIKE I SAID, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY COMMUNICATION THAT REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT THIS POINT.
I THINK EVERYBODY HAS KIND OF FIGURED IT OUT NOW, BUT, RIGHT.
UM, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF DAYS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SOME KIDS WALKING BACK HOME AFTER THE BUS HAD LEFT
AND AS A, AS A REMINDER, YOU KNOW, WE MET WITH THEM AGAIN LAST WEEK AS A, JUST A, A PERIODIC, UH, MEETING WITH THE ENGINEERS AND THE CONTRACTOR AND, AND IN ORDER TO TRY AND DO OUR BEST TO SPEED THIS UP, BECAUSE WE HAVE LOST SOME TIME, AND YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT THEY DID ASK FOR A FIVE WEEK, UH, EXTENSION ESSENTIALLY.
UM, THEY INITIALLY WERE GOING TO, UH, DO THE INTERSECTION IN QUARTERS, 1, 2, 3, 4.
WELL NOW THEY'RE ALL GONNA DO IT AT ONCE.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO TRY AND, AND SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IN DOING THAT.
UM, IT DOES CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISRUPTION, UM, BUT IT'LL GET IT DONE A LOT QUICKER.
SO THEY ARE STILL LOOKING AT MAYBE TURN OF THE NEW YEAR, UH, FOR THAT NEW STREAK TO BE OPENED UP.
GOING ON TO THE, UH, BIKE PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO PUT THE, THE NEW TRAIL IN THE CENTER POINT FEE STRIP TO REPLACE THE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE TAKEN OUT BY THE, UH, NEW PIPELINE AS WELL.
EXTEND IT DOWN THROUGH STAFFORD.
UM, I CAN'T SAY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PROGRESS ON THAT.
A LOT OF PAPERWORK WITH CENTER POINT.
UM, THEY'VE, I THINK THE NEW APPLICATION IS READY, ALTHOUGH THEY CHANGED THE AMOUNT ON US.
IT'S NOT ONE FLAT FEE NOW IT'S A FLAT FLEE PLUS YOU SAW THAT PER, PER BORING, UM,
AND SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED FROM CENTERPOINT SO THAT WE CAN GET THE APPLICATION IN CORRECTLY, UM, SO THAT WE CAN FINISH UP THE ENGINEERING.
THAT APPLICATION'S BEEN MAILED.
SO WE MAILED IT EFFECT I THINK
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YESTERDAY.AND YES, IT'S, UM, WE GOT A SURPRISE EMAIL FROM CENTER POINT THAT SAID IF AND WHEN WE APPROVE YOUR BORING, THEN AFTER THAT YOU HAVE TO WRITE US A CHECK FOR $250 TUR BORE.
UH, AND WE'RE DOING NINE BOARS.
SO, UH, THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
THEY GET THE CHARGE US WHAT THEY WANNA CHARGE US IF WE WANNA BE THERE.
RICK, THIS MAY HAVE BEEN A BETTER QUESTION FOR COLLEEN.
IT MIGHT BE IN, IN YOUR FIELD.
UH, THE, THE WHOLE STRIP WAS JUST MOWED.
WAS THAT IN PREPARATION FOR ENGINEERING OR WAS THAT JUST REGULAR MOWING OF, UH, THAT WHOLE AREA? I WOULD SAY IT WAS PROBABLY JUST REGULAR MOWING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, JUST AS AN ASIDE, IT'S CENTER POINT GENERALLY DOES NOT WORK QUICKLY.
UM, I WAS AT AN EVENT TODAY AND DEVELOPERS ARE NOW BEING TOLD MINIMUM 16 WEEKS TO SIX MONTHS FOR NEW TRANSFORMERS FOR THESE NEW SUBDIVISIONS.
SO, WHOA, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF HOME BUILDERS OUT THERE THAT ARE PRETTY ANTSY RIGHT NOW.
THINK ABOUT PRICE THAT HOUSE, MAN.
UM, OKAY, MOVING ON THAT ITEM D, REGULAR AGENDA ITEM.
KNOW ONE ONE'S DISCUSSING THE CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE 2022 DASH WHAT? 56.
UH, AMENDING CITY OF MEADS PLACE, CODE OF ORDINANCE CHAPTER ONE, 50.02 REGARDING DRIVEWAYS.
REMEMBER THIS COUNCIL, WE HAD, UM, QUITE A BIT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.
I THINK COUNCIL CAME TO A GREAT CONCLUSION.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS JUST AMENDING THIS, UH, ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR, UH, RE REPAIRS WHERE THEY HAVE A TWO INCH MORE SURFACE BREAK, HORIZONTAL VERTICAL TO BE REPAIRED.
AND IT'S, UH, WITH RENTERS ONLY AND THEY HAVE ONE YEAR AFTER NOTIFICATION.
SO WE'RE NOT CLIPPING SOMEBODY THAT JUST BOUGHT AN INVESTMENT IN THE HOUSE, BROUGHT IT IN HERE, AND TWO WEEKS LATER HAVE TO SPEND 10,000 BUCKS.
HOWEVER, WE DO FEEL IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A BUSINESS, THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR BUSINESS AND WORK TO HELP THE CITY MOVE FORWARD.
AND I THOUGHT Y'ALL CAME UP WITH A GREAT SOLUTION.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO PASS? MOVE TO APPROVE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY NAS? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
UM, ITEM NUMBER TWO IS CONSIDERATION DISCUSSION REGARDING COMMERCIAL OVERSIZED VEHICLES AND METALS PLACED.
UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE, COUNSEL, I'M GONNA HAVE TO THROW THIS UP.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT PROBLEM I'M TRYING TO SOLVE.
THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC INCIDENTS OR ONE THAT I'M TRYING TO REGARD.
YOU'VE SEEN, YOU'VE GOT ALL THE BACKUP IN THERE ON CHAPTER 1 53 OF YOUR ZONING.
IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN TALKING SIZE.
IT CAN BE OR CANNOT BE IN HERE.
AND YOU CAN LOOK OVER IN, UH, THE NEXT PAGE, UH, IN THE, UH, TEXAS LAW THAT SAYS, DOES NOT LIMIT THE MUNICIPAL TO REGULATE PARKING OF COM COMMERCIAL, I'M SORRY, LET ME READ THAT AGAIN.
DOES NOT LIMIT THE POWER OF A MUNICIPALITY TO REGULATE THE PARKING OF COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLES, WHICH MEANS WE DO HAVE SOME SAY SO.
UM, I'VE NOT, I'VE NOT BEEN INUNDATED BY PEOPLE COMPLAINING.
NOW WE'VE HAD SOME COMPLAINTS WHEN SOMEBODY'S PARKED, UH, IN FRONT OF THEIR MAILBOX OR WHEN THEY WANT TO GET OUT OR
WE'VE GOT SOME SITUATIONS IN THIS CITY WHERE THE HOUSING IS LAID OUT TO WHERE IT'S ALMOST POSSIBLE TO PARK AND PEOPLE DO THE BEST THEY CAN.
UM, THE CHIEF HAS BEEN INSTRUCTING ME ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS FOR ABOUT 17 YEARS AND THOSE
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PROBLEMS AREN'T GONNA GO AWAY.SO I'M NOT REAL SURE WHAT THE DISCUSSION IS OTHER THAN I DON'T SEE ANY, ANY BIG CHANGES TO BE LAID OUT.
COUNSEL? WELL, I I THINK ONE THING WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IS CHAPTER 1 53.
WE CAN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T ENFORCE THIS AS WRITTEN, UH, BECAUSE IT WOULD REMOVE SO MANY MORE VEHICLES THAN WHAT THIS ORIGINALLY SPELLED OUT.
AND, AND BY THAT I MEAN ONE TON PAYLOAD, WHICH IS EVERY F TWO 50, EVERY F THREE 50.
UH, AND, AND A LOT OF HALF TON PICKUPS HAVE THAT CAPACITY.
SO THIS IS THAT TERM WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH.
OTHERWISE WE NEED TO GIVE A TICKET TO WANDER CARS IN THE CITY.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH AND CLEAN UP OUR ORDINANCES, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT.
UM, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS DONE RECENTLY OR, OR EVEN OVER THE PAST YEAR, HAVE, HAVE WARNINGS BEEN GIVEN OUT, HAVE CITATIONS BEEN GIVEN OUT? HAS THIS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT? UM, WHAT, WHAT HAVE WE RUN INTO ON THAT SIDE? WE'LL ASK HIM JUST A SECOND.
AND BEYOND THAT, ANY, ANYBODY THAT OWNS A CREW CAB PICKUP WITH A LONG BED, IT'S GONNA BE OVER 20 FEET.
THERE ARE THREE MODELS THAT I FOUND 10 OF THAT I FOUND THAT ARE 20 FOOT SIX INCHES.
AND SO THERE'S SOME OF THOSE SITTING IN THIS TOWN RIGHT NOW.
I, WE HAVE TO STRIKE THAT IN MY A VAN PICKUP.
THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS IN THIS CITY THAT, AND I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL CUZ THEY'VE BROUGHT CONCERNS TO ME BEFORE THAT YES, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO FIND ANOTHER PARKING SPOT FOR THEIR VEHICLE, BUT IT ADDS ANOTHER HOUR TO THEIR COMMUTE THAT THEY COULD BE WITH THEIR KIDS AT THE BASEBALL FIELD, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
SO IT, IT'S QUITE THE INCONVENIENCE IF WE SAY, YEAH, YOU'VE GOT A CHEVY EQUINOX, BUT SINCE IT HAS A LOGO AND A LIGHTER RACK, YOU CAN'T PARK HERE ANYMORE.
ACTUALLY, THERE'S AN EXCEPTION TO THAT IN THE, IN THE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS EXCEPT, EXCEPT FOR TRADITIONAL LETTERING.
WHICH WOULD, THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
SO WE WOULDN'T BE INCLUDING THOSE.
UM, BUT I DO, WHERE WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT? I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND DIG TO IT.
I'LL FIND, I THINK THE POINT MAYOR ON THIS, I DON'T SEE, I HAVEN'T SEEN A PROBLEM, I HAVEN'T SEEN MANY PEOPLE.
I'VE SEEN SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT.
UM, MOST OF THE VEHICLES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TYPICALLY LEAVE EVERY DAY AND GO TO WORK.
IT'S PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, THE ONLY TIMES THAT I'VE REALLY SEEN THEM ON THE ROADWAY HAS BEEN AT NIGHT ARE ON THE WEEKENDS.
UM, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN A BIG PARKING ISSUE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND I'VE DRIVEN AROUND THE CITY.
I KNOW YOU'VE ALL DRIVEN AROUND THE CITY.
WE DO NEED TO UPDATE OUR ORDINANCE ON THIS.
UM, BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIX? I DON'T REALLY SEE, WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THE ISSUE IS BY ORDINANCE, WE SHOULD BE ENFORCING OUR CODE.
WE NEED TO CLEAN UP OUR ORDINANCE.
OR IF WE'VE GOT STUFF THAT'S OUTDATED DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, NOW WE NEED TO STRIKE IT SO STAFF DOESN'T.
SO WE GIVEN CLEAR INDICATION TO STAFF WHAT WE WANT ENFORCED WHAT WE DO NOT.
I MEAN, TECHNICALLY WHEN I'M HAVING TO DO THE, THE VEHICLE SHUFFLE AND PARK MY COUNTY TRUCK AT THE MAILBOX SO THAT I CAN PULL ANOTHER VEHICLE OUT TO COME TO THIS MEETING CAUSE I CAN'T DRIVE MY COUNTY TRUCK HERE.
NO, BUT THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
AND CHIEF, AM I CORRECT IN, UM, SAYING THAT NOBODY'S SUPPOSED TO BE PARKING 20 FEET OF THE CORNER? YES SIR.
WE GET INTO THE, THE TRAFFIC LAW AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND TYPICALLY HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HANDLES IT IS, UNLESS WE HAVE A COMPLAINT OR UNLESS IT'S A, A SAFETY ISSUE, UH, WHERE IT'S PARKED AT, PARKED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION OF TRAVEL, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WE'VE NOT REALLY ENFORCED THAT BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING.
IT'S ONLY IN THOSE SPECIFIC CASES OR IF WE GET A DIRECT COMPLAINT WHERE THERE'S AN ISSUE.
SO UNLESS THERE'S BEEN A SPECIFIC CLA UH, COMPLAINT OR IF YOU NOTICE THAT IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE, Y'ALL ARE NOT GONNA BE ADDRESSING AS A TYPICAL, WE DON'T, UH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE TRANSPORTATION CODE.
AND I HATE TO BRING THIS UP, BUT WHEN PEOPLE PARK ACROSS
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THE SIDEWALK THAT THERE'S A TRANSPORTATION CODE THAT PROHIBITS THAT AND WE WOULD BE, Y'ALL WOULD BE GETTING IN A DATE WITH COMPLAINTS IF WE WENT OUT AND TRIED TO ENFORCE THAT.BUT I DO AGREE WITH CLEANING UP THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAN SO THAT IT, IT MAKES IT, UH, EASIER FOR OUR CITIZENS TO UNDERSTAND IT AND SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ENFORCE IT UNNECESSARILY.
COUNSEL, WE NEED TO, UH, GIVE STAFF A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION ON, UH, WHAT WE WANT CLEANED.
I WOULD SAY HURT THE ONE TON CAPACITY TYPE THING.
UH, I THINK IT'D BE, IT'D BE REALLY SIMPLE IF WE JUST SAID NO TRACTOR TRAILERS AND NOTHING MORE THAN 14 FEET IN HEIGHT.
I MEAN THAT, THAT'S
AND THAT WILL CAUSE TRAFFIC ISSUES.
SO NO TRACTORS, NO TRACTOR TRAILERS AND NOTHING 14 FEET AND HIGH.
YOU MAY WANT TO INCLUDE TRAILERS AS WELL.
SO TRAILERS AND BOATS, WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT PEOPLE TO PARK A TRAILER IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE FOR THREE WEEKS ON AN END WITH A BUNCH OF GARBAGE IN IT.
I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRAILERS.
WHAT ABOUT THE LAWN CARE COMPANY? THEY HAVE TRAILERS THAT ARE, BUT THEY'RE HERE DURING THE DAY.
THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO, THEY'RE THERE AT NIGHT IF IT IS THEIR COMPANY THAT THEY TAKE OUT THE DAY THAT, CUZ I HAVE A NEIGHBOR WHO HAS ONE AND HE IS PARKED IN HIS DRIVEWAY AT NIGHTTIME.
THAT ISN'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY.
I THINK I'VE SEEN THEM IN THE ROAD.
UM, BUT THAT IS A BUSINESS AND I, AND I HAVE SEEN THEM IN THE CITY AND WE'VE ASKED THEM TO MOVE THEM.
I I'D SAY WITH CHAPTER 71, THE FIRST PART, UM, MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE, AGAIN, NO TRA LEAVING, NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER SIX 14 FEET IN HEIGHT AND TRACTOR TRAILER COMBINATION.
UM, SO IN 71 AND THEN IN 1 53 ON THE NEXT PAGE, UM, I I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY BUS RECREATIONAL VEHICLES.
SO BUS IS, THAT'S A, I FEEL LIKE, I DUNNO IF THAT'S A LENGTH OR HOW WE WOULD NEED TO SAY WHAT'S A, A BUS, UM, A GREYHOUND BUS.
SO THERE'S A DEFINITION IN THERE, BUT I WANNA LEAVE, YOU KNOW, TRAILER, BOAT, MOTOR HOME, MOBILE HOME, UH, WHATEVER.
UH, NO RECREATIONAL VEHICLE, TRAILER, BOAT, MOTOR HOME OR MOBILE HOME.
THERE'RE THAT'S WHY I, TO BACK UP JUST TO MENTION THOSE VEHICLES, THERE'S EXCEPTIONS TO THAT THAT ONLY YOU AND I CAN IMPROVE.
AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU STILL HAVE THE OPTION FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S COMING IN FOR A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE.
AND OFTENTIMES PEOPLE CONTACT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND SAY, HEY, I'M GONNA BE IN TOWN VISITING MY BROTHER HERE IN MEADOWS PLACE FOR A WEEK.
CAN I LEAVE IT HERE AND NOT GET A TICKET? AND SHE'LL GO, WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING DECEMBER 1ST FIND DECEMBER 2ND.
I'LL BE BACK TO WRITE YOU A TICKET UNLESS IT'S GONE.
UM, OKAY, SO CAN WE DO, IS THAT AN ISSUE? SO THE ORDINANCE ACTUALLY DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
UM, OH, HOW, WHAT ABOUT, I MEAN, IN THE INSTANCE, WHAT IF I NEED TO BRING THE BOAT TO THE HOUSE TO CLEAN TO WORK ON FOR A DAY OR TWO? UM, SAME THING.
IF YOU'RE GOING ON A TOWN ON A TRIP, YOU NEED TO GET, GET YOUR, YOU KNOW, TRAILER READY.
WHAT DOES THAT FALL? SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN IN THE ORDINANCE CHAPTER 71, THE MAYOR OR THE POLICE CHIEF OR THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UH, HAS THE DISCRETION IN WRITING TO ALLOW FOR IT.
THAT'S THE RELIEF VALVE YOU'VE GOT.
SO YOU'VE GOT TWO SECTIONS OF THE CODE RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU GUYS.
CHAPTER 71 AND CHAPTER 1 53 71 IS YOUR TRAFFIC CODE.
SO IN 71, THAT'S WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT OVERSIZED VEHICLES.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE ALL OF THE SEVEN DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT'S AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE.
IF IT MEETS ANY ONE OF THOSE SEVEN, THEN YOU CANNOT PARK THAT IN THE STREET AFTER DARK.
AND IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE, 20 MINUTES AFTER SUNSET.
SO IF IT'S ANY ONE OF THOSE SEVEN THINGS, INCLUDING MORE THAN EIGHT FEET WIDE, MORE THAN 20 FEET LONG IS A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE TRUCK, TRACTOR TRAILER WEIGHS MORE THAN 10,000 POUNDS.
IT CANNOT BE IN THE STREET AFTER DARK, BUT IT CAN BE IN A DRIVEWAY.
SO THAT'S, I, SO THAT'S CHAPTER 71.
IF YOU FLIP OVER TO 1 53, WHICH IS YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE, THAT'S WHERE WE START TALKING ABOUT THE ONE TON CAPACITY.
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AND SO REALLY ALL THAT MATTERS IS B, BECAUSE ANY VEHICLE THAT EXCEEDS ONE TON CAPACITY CANNOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY AT ALL.SO YOU'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE CODE THAT DEAL WITH OVERSIZED VEHICLES AND VEHICLES OVER ONE TON, TON CAPACITY OVERSIZE.
YOU CAN'T PARK IT IN THE STREET AFTER DARK ONE TON CAPACITY.
YOU CAN'T SEE IT ANYWHERE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE TWO SECTIONS OF THE CODE THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW JENNIFER'S CH CHARGE BASED ON THE ORDINANCES.
IF THERE IS A TOW TRUCK THAT'S IN THE STREET, WHETHER IT'S A FLATBED TOW TRUCK OR NOT, THAT TOW TRUCK, IF IT'S LONGER THAN 20 FEET, AND OF COURSE IT WILL BE, IS ILLEGAL IF IT'S IN THE STREET OVERNIGHT.
NO MATTER WHERE IT'S PARKED ON THE STREET.
I MEAN 20 FEET AWAY FROM A STOP SIGN 150 FEET AWAY FROM THE STOP SIGN.
IF IT'S IN THE STREET OVERNIGHT, IT'S IN THE STREET.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THE DRIVEWAY AS WELL FOR 1 53.
BECAUSE IT EXCEEDS ONE SON CAPACITY.
SO A TOW TRUCK WOULD ACTUALLY FALL INTO BOTH CATEGORIES.
CAUSE IT'S BOTH 20 FEET LONG AND IT'S ALSO MORE THAN ONE TON CAPACITY.
BUT, UM, BOTH SECTIONS DEAL WITH THE SAME SIMILAR SUBJECT IN TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF WAYS.
SO IF WE, THE NO TRUCK EXCEEDING ONE CAPACITY OUT 1 53.
SO IF, IF, AND WHAT KURT WAS SAYING IS BASICALLY IN 1 53, WE STILL DON'T WANT BOATS VISIBLE.
WE STILL DON'T WANT BUSES VISIBLE, WE STILL DON'T WANT TRAILERS VISIBLE.
BUT IF YOU STRIKE THE NO TRUCK EXCEEDING ONE TIME CAPACITY, THEN SHE'S OUT THERE LOOKING FOR THOSE OTHER THINGS.
BUT IT EXCLUDES BUT NOT THE F TWO 50.
THOSE ARE ALLOWED IF YOU STRIKE NO TRUCK EXCEEDING ONE TIME CAPACITY.
ONE THING THAT HAS ME A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THAT IS WHAT IF WE GET A MOVING COMPANY THAT WANTS TO PARK THEIR VEHICLES IN THE STREET OVERNIGHT? OVERNIGHT THAT WOULDN'T, IF WE EXCLUDED THAT COMPLETELY, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST ONE, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD THAT TO WHERE IF IT IS AN ISSUE, IF WE, IF WE HAVE, CAN BE INFORMED THAT I WAS JUST ABOUT TO ASK THAT.
SO WITH 71 WHERE IT SAYS WITHOUT WRITTEN APPROVAL FROM THE POLICE CHIEF OR THE MAYOR, CAN WE ADD THAT TO 1 53? SURE.
FOR THOSE PARTICULAR COURSE IF YOU WANT TO.
IS THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE DO THAT? WELL, I, I'M SAYING SOMEONE OWNS A MOVING COMPANY IN MEADOWS PLACE AND THEY WANNA PARK THEIR VEHICLE THERE.
SHOULD WE JUST ADD BOX TRUCK? THAT'S THE TOUGH PART IS THERE'S SOME PLUMBERS THAT HAVE A SHORT BOX TRUCK, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A TOUGH ONE.
UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO SAY BOX TRUCK EXCEEDING 26 FEET IN LAKE GETTING DOWN INTO, I MEAN I DON'T, I THOUGHT WE JUST SAID OVER 14 FEET IN HEIGHT DOESN'T, THOSE MARKS TRUCKS AREN'T NECESSARILY OVER 14 FEET.
HOW? HOW CAN YOU NOT HAVE THEM THEN? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
DO WE REALLY WANNA SEE A MOVING VAN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON A REGULAR BASIS? IT NEEDS TO BE AN ORDINANCE THAT WE CAN APPLY ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO IF, IF IT FALLS WITHIN WHATEVER PARAMETERS WE HAVE.
I MEAN, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT ONE, BUT YOU CAN HAVE THIS ONE AND I GUESS WE CAN BRING IT UP OF THAT.
IF IT BECOMES A PROBLEM, WE CAN BRING IT UP AGAIN.
OR WOULD THAT BE IT? WELL, I'M JUST BEANS.
YOU'D PROBABLY BE OKAY IF IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WITH LAND.
YOU CAN'T RETROACTIVELY PASS SOMETHING IF SOMEBODY MOVES IN.
LIKE IF, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SMOKE SHOP ORDINANCE AND A SMOKE SHOP MOVED INTO ONE OF THE STRIP CENTERS, WE CAN'T BOOT THEM.
BUT WITH VEHICLES, CAUSE PROBABLY IT PROBABLY PROBABLY WOULDN'T APPLY TO VEHICLES.
IT WOULDN'T APPLY TO VEHICLES.
PEOPLE, CITIES DO IT WITH RVS A LOT WHERE IF YOU PASS AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS NO MORE RVS IN TOWN, YOU CAN'T KICK OUT THE EXISTING ONES.
THEY'RE, THEY HAVE AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING STATUS, THEY'RE GRANDFATHER.
BUT AS SOON AS THEY MOVE OR AS SOON AS THEY GET DAMAGED, THEN THEY CANNOT BE REPAIRED OR PUT BACK IN PLACE.
SO THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'S KIND OF EVENTUALLY AMORTIZED OUT.
UM, VEHICLES COULD BE DONE SIMILARLY WHERE IF YOU PASS AN ORDINANCE, THEY'RE MOVING ALL THE TIME.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO VESTED RIGHTS, THERE'S NO GRANDFATHERING, UM,
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WITH VEHICLES.SO IT'S REALLY JUST ASKING YOU GUYS, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT? CUZ JENNIFER HAS TO ENFORCE THIS STUFF.
AND AS I'VE ALWAYS SAID, IF SHE WRITES A TRAFFIC CITATION, SHE HAS TO BE THE ONE THAT STANDS IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE AND JUSTIFIES WHY SHE WROTE THAT CITATION.
AND SO WE WANT HER TO HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHY SHE WROTE THAT GUY UP FOR X, Y, AND Z AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING YOU GUYS, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF VEHICLES SHE NEEDS TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR AT NIGHT OR AT ANY TIME.
UM, THAT SHOULDN'T BE OUT IN THE STREET.
NO, I'M NOT BUYING A MOVING COMPANY.
UH, I, SO MY OPINION, WE NEED TO CUT OUT THE ONE TON CAPACITY, COMPLETELY LEAVE ALL THE OTHER VEHICLES IN 1 53 AND THEN IN 71 JUST LEAVE 14 FEET AND TRACTOR TRAILER.
WHAT ABOUT THE 10,000 POUNDS? DOES THAT ONE STAY? THAT ONE'S TOUGH, NICK.
YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA REWRITE THIS ANYWAY AND COME BACK TO US.
SO THIS, THIS IS JUST GIVING YOU GUIDELINES TO YEP.
YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE GIVING US DIRECTION AND WE'LL GO AWAY, REDO THE ORDINANCE, COME BACK WITH A REVISED ORDINANCE.
MAYOR 10,000 POUNDS IS NOT AS DIFFICULT TO GET ANYMORE.
UH, THE NEW HUMER SUV OR THE HUMMER TRUCK IS 9,000 SOMETHING POUNDS.
SO YOU ADD SO PEOPLE YEAH,
YOU HAD A SNORKEL, YOU'RE THERE, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND, AND SO I'M JUST THINKING THERE'S A GUY THAT, UH, WORKS FOR A COMPANY.
UM, I DON'T WANNA GIVE MORE DETAILS, BUT HE HAS A TRUCK THAT IS A SERVICE TRUCK AND ON THAT SERVICE TRUCK IS A WELDER, IS A GENERATOR.
YOU KNOW, CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE PROBABLY GONNA PUT IT OVER THAT 10,000 POUNDS.
I I DON'T WANT TO KICK HIM OUTTA HERE.
SO I, I'D GET RID OF THE 10,000 POUND THING.
COUNSEL, WOULD YOU UP TO ANYTHING, WOULD YOU GET RID OF THE, THE, THE POUNDAGE ALTOGETHER OR JUST UP IT, IT'S PROBABLY NOT WORTH IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY THOUGHT THIS WAS DAMAGING PAVEMENT OR NOT, BUT UNTIL YOU GET TO A, YOU KNOW, AN 80,000 POUND TRUCK, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT DAMAGING PAVEMENT.
WELL, TO ME IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S, IT WAS WRITTEN FOR PAVEMENT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS WRITTEN FOR A SPECIFIC TYPE OF VEHICLE IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME.
WELL YOU ALSO WANT TO POINT BACK AT THIS ONE.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE THE DATE ON, BUT SOME OF THIS STUFF CAME INTO FROM THE HOA POSSIBLY AND IT WAS, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER VEHICLES.
AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT.
UH, I I I'M OKAY WITH JUST KILLING THE THOUSAND POUNDS.
WE NEED TO KEEP THE EIGHT FEET RIP.
CAUSE IT'S PROBLEMATIC ON OUR PART.
I DON'T, I'D HAVE, I HONESTLY, I WANNA LOOK UP WHAT DIFFERENT WIDTHS ARE BEFORE WE JUST SAY STRIKE IT.
WELL WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND THEN WE WOULD LEAVE, UH, TRUCK TRACTOR, TRACTOR COMBINATION.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M, I WOULD GET RID OF NUMBER ONE, BUT THAT'S, SO THAT'S ME.
I GUESS I'M, I'M LOOKING AT PARKING.
I THINK THE MAYOR'S JUST LOOKING AT PARKING.
SO LET, LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT THAT.
OUR, OUR STREETS ARE 27 FEET BACK TO BACK 26 FEET FACE TO FACE.
YOU TAKE 16 FEET OF THAT, YOU GOT 10 FEET LEFT.
THAT'S GONNA MAKE IT AWFUL TOUGH FOR A FIRE TRUCK TO GET THROUGH.
AND THAT'S IF THEY'RE PUTTING THE, THEIR WHEELS ON THE CURB.
SO I'M JUST LOOKING IT UP JUST FOR GRIN.
SO AN AN F THREE 50 DOOLEY IS SIX AND A HALF FEET WIDE.
SO THAT'S, YEAH, EIGHT FEET IS A A LOT.
EIGHT FEET IS GENERALLY YOUR, YOUR, YOUR BUSES, YOUR FIRE TRUCKS, MAYBE AN AMBULANCE.
THEY GO PARK THEIR FIRE TRUCK ON OUR STREET GOES STRIKE IT.
OKAY, SO NICK, HAVE YOU GOT WE'RE KEEPING ONE, WE'RE KEEPING THREE, WE'RE KEEPING FIVE, WE'RE KEEPING SIX.
AND WE'RE GONNA GET GRADY TWO REDO ONE AND BRING IT BACK TO US.
I'LL SAVE YOU A LOT OF MONEY AND I'LL DO IT MYSELF.
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EXPECT THE BONUS.AND, AND THEN A 1 53 GONNA ADD IN THE MAYOR, BUT 1 53 IS IN ZONING SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO BEFORE PZ.
WE CAN DO THAT, BUT YEAH, I CAN EXPLAIN IT TO 'EM.
UM, SO ON 1 53 YOU WANT TO ADD MAYOR, POLICE, CHIEF TRAFFIC, ENGINEER.
AND THEN WHAT ABOUT NO TRUCK EXCEEDING ONE TON CAPACITY? I WOULD STRIKE.
AND THEN AN A, IT'S GOT THAT ONE SENTENCE.
SO COUNSEL, I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH THIS.
DO WE WANNA SEE IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS? DO WE WANT TO SEE IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY ON THIS ITEM? WELL, THEY WOULD'VE SIGNED UP BY NOW AND HANDED TO THE, I DIDN'T SEE THE LIST.
OR MAYBE THERE WAS GOT ONE SIGN UP.
NO, YOU CAN COME UP IF YOU WANNA COME UP AND SPEAK.
YOU NEED TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
GET UP THERE AND WE CAN HEAR YOU.
I LIVE AT 11 7 15 KINSEY COURT WHERE THE, UH, FLATBED TOW TRUCK IS.
AND WE RECENTLY RECEIVED A VIOLATION, BUT THEN MS. JENNIFER CAME BACK AND SAID TO WAIT UNTIL THE MEETING THIS EVENING.
AND I KNOW THAT MY HUSBAND HAS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY OFFICIALS AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
AND WE WERE ALWAYS TOLD THIS WAS NOT AN ISSUE.
ALTHOUGH WE HAVE GOTTEN COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT FOR YEAR AFTER, LIKE FOR YEARS.
WE CONSTANTLY GET IN COMPLAINTS.
PRIOR TO THAT, WE KNEW EXACTLY WHO IT WAS.
AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S ALMOST LIKE A TARGET ISSUE.
LIKE WE'RE BEING TARGETED BECAUSE IT'S A TOW TRUCK.
WE'VE HAD NOTES LEFT ON OUR CARS SAYING THAT WE NEEDED TO LEAVE, THAT WE WERE WRECKER TRASH.
AND LET ME JUST STOP YOU RIGHT THERE.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO GO THROUGH THAT GRIEF.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF YOU'VE LISTENED TO THIS COUNCIL TONIGHT, THERE'S NOBODY CONDEMNING ANYBODY IN THIS CITY FOR WHATEVER THEY DO.
I MEAN, KURT MAY END UP WITH A MOVING COMPANY HERE NIGHT OVER
SO I JUST WANT PUT YOU TO PUT YOU TO REST OVER THAT.
I ALSO WANNA PUT YOU TO REST THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ONCE BEFORE TO ASK YOU TO MOVE IT BACK FROM THE CORNER A COUPLE TIMES.
AND HE ACTUALLY MOVED THE MAILBOX.
AND SO I HAVE, UH, I HAVE NO, UM, PROBLEMS WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
UM, YOU'RE GONNA BE THERE IN ODD HOURS CUZ IF YOU GOT A JOB AT THREE IN THE MORNING, YOU'RE GONE.
NOT ME PERSONALLY, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND I CAN'T STAND TOW TRUCKS.
I WANT YOU TO LET YOU KNOW YOU'RE STILL ON HOLD.
JENNIFER HANDLES SITUATIONS LIKE THAT VERY WELL.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO AND THAT'S THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS HERE IN MEADOWS PLACE.
SO I WANT YOU TO REST ASSURED TO TAKE, I WANT YOU TO GO HOME.
I WANT YOU TO ENJOY YOUR EVENING.
I WANT YOU TO RELAX AND THINK ABOUT THANKSGIVING COMING UP.
AND IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AT THIS, UH, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE, FEEL FREE THOUGH.
OH, I MEAN, A TOW TRUCK IS CONSIDERED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AS AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE.
THEY'RE LICENSED TO THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRAINING EVERY YEAR.
IT'S CONSIDERED AN EMERGENCY MAN MANAGEMENT VEHICLE.
SO IF THE TOW TRUCK HAS TO BE REMOVED, I'M JUST WONDERING IF ALL OF THE OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRE NO, IT'S A SIDES ISSUE.
AND, AND FOR MOST PEOPLE, OF COURSE FOR SOME PEOPLE IT'S TOW TRUCK ISSUE.
AND THEN THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE.
I MEAN, I DON'T CARE ABOUT, I DON'T CARE FOR TOW TRUCK DRIVERS NORMALLY EITHER, BUT
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THE AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT MY HUSBAND HAS DONE FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND HOW ACTIVE I AM, HE'S WELL KNOWN AND WELL RESPECTED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.I'M SURE THAT Y'ALL RECEIVED SOME LETTERS ON OUR BEHALF, SO I GUESS THAT'S IT.
AND, AND TO YOUR POINT THOUGH, UM, THERE ARE RESIDENTS OUT THERE LIKE THAT.
UM, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 23 YEARS NOW.
WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, I WOULD GET SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO GET RID OF ALL THESE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES.
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO PARK A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE IN YOUR DRIVEWAY.
AND THERE ARE ALSO SOME PEOPLE THAT WANT US TO REQUIRE YOU TO PARK IN YOUR GARAGE AND YOU CAN'T EVEN PARK IN YOUR DRIVEWAY.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ANYTHING.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVER GOING TO HAPPEN WITH, WITH THE COUNCIL.
I MEAN, TRYING TO FORCE PEOPLE TO PARK IN THEIR GARAGE IS A LITTLE BIT OF GOVERNMENT OVERREACH.
AND WE ARE SO FAR BEYOND WHERE IT WAS, UM, AS FAR AS COMMERCIAL VEHICLES GO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT WAS OKAY IN THE SEVENTIES, BUT THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT DRIVE COMPANY VEHICLES NOW THAT IT'D BE IMPOSSIBLE TO ENFORCE.
I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE, I THINK THE REASON THIS IS EVEN ON THE AGENDA IS WE'RE TRYING TO UPDATE OUR ORDINANCES, NOT JUST THIS ONE, BUT OTHERS WE'RE LOOKING AT TO, SO THAT THERE'S NOT A, NOT A BIG QUESTION OR CONCERN AND THAT THEY'RE ENFORCEABLE TO THE, TO THE DEGREE WE WANT TO ENFORCE THEM.
AND THAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WITH COMMENTS FROM OUR RESIDENTS.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS TONIGHT.
AND IF SEVEN YEARS FROM NOW THE COUNCIL WANTS TO REVISIT THIS ORDINANCE AGAIN, THEY'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME.
AND I DO WANNA MENTION THAT WE, I KNOW THAT I DID, I THINK YOU GUYS DID, WE HAVE RECEIVED EMAILS, UH, REGARDING THIS TOPIC AND EVERYBODY WAS, WAS FOR THE ISSUE, UM, OF, OF THE TOW TRUCK AND, AND THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT IT HA IS BROUGHT VALUE TO THE CITY.
UM, I THINK WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS DEFINITELY WHAT THE ORDINANCE STATES, CLEANING IT UP AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN APPLY IT TO EVERYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO, AND I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE THERE.
AND WITH THAT, UNLESS COUNSEL HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS, WE'LL MOVE ON.
MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE, DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION REGARDING ANONYMOUS CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS.
WE JUST HEARD ONE PERSON MENTION ANONYMOUS CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS.
WE HAVE, UM, ON OUR WEBSITE A FORM THAT ALLOWS YOU TO TURN IN A, AN ISSUE OR A VIOLATION OR SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL IS A CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, VIOLATION.
AND IT HAS AN OPTION FOR YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.
IN THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE HAD 135 ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS.
UM, WE'VE HAD 18 THAT WERE, THAT CAME OVER THAT PAGE.
UH, WE HAD 28 THAT WERE IDENTIFIED, AND TWO OF THOSE WERE NAMED JOHN DOE AND JACK BLACK.
UH, SO
CUZ IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT CHART TELLS EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS, IT COMES IN, SHE GETS A COMPLAINT, AND USUALLY THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY SHE PULLS IT DOWN.
SHE OPENS A CASE AND GOES OUT THAT DAY OR THE NEXT DAY TO VISIT THE SITE, AND THEY HAVE A PLACE ON COM THAT SAYS VALID OR INVALID.
AND IF IT'S INVALID, SHE PUTS INVALID AND THE CASE IS CLOSED.
IF IT'S VALID, THEN SHE CONTINUES WITH THE CASE, NOTIFIES THE HOMEOWNER, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
THE QUESTION TO ME IS, AND UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CASES THAT COULD POSSIBLY, UH, BE CONSIDERED BULLYING ANONYMOUSLY.
WE CHECKED ON THAT AND THERE'S, THERE'S TWO THAT COULD BE MADE DEAD TO BELIEVE THAT.
UH, SO THE QUESTION IS, IS WHAT DO WE DO? IN MY MIND QUESTION IS, IS WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE ANONYMOUS COMPLAINT? I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP IT, AND ONE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT IT UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA BEFORE AND SAID, WELL, SOMEONE
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MADE A COMPLAINT ABOUT ME, AND THEN SOMEONE SAYS, HEY, WE'LL DO AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST AND FIGURE OUT WHO DID IT.AND AT THAT POINT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA START TO SEE SOME SQUABBLING THAT DOESN'T NEED TO HAPPEN.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT A HUGE DEAL.
MOST OF THE THINGS BEING REPORTED ARE LEGITIMATE.
I DON'T SEE IT AS BEING AN ISSUE AT THIS POINT.
AND YET WE HAD A COUNCILMAN THIS EVENING SAY, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO TALK TO ME, THEY CAN TALK TO ME.
UM, BUT THAT'S THE OTHER HALF OF THAT COIN.
I DON'T WANNA SEE PEOPLE TRYING TO RETALIATE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT KIND OF STUFF WOULD HAPPEN, OR AT LEAST I HAVE A STRONG FEELING THAT WOULD HAPPEN OVER TIME.
OR WE COULD BE, AS CHRIS GOLIC TRIED TO SCHOOL ME ON, WE COULD BE BETTER NEIGHBORS
AND IF YOU HAVE A VIOLATION, MAYBE GO VOLUNTEER TO HELP WITH HIM.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER HALF OF THAT.
WELL, I'M NOT, I'M NOT ALL ROSES AND UNICORNS LIKE CHRIS IS
WELL, AND, AND, AND HERE I'M, I'M KIND OF WITH KURT ON THIS, LET'S KEEP IT.
BUT LET'S WATCH FOR ANY ISSUES WHERE WE, WE THINK IT'S TARGETED AND WE CAN INTERNALLY DEAL WITH THAT.
IF WE THINK THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT'S JUST OUT TO GET A NEIGHBOR AND THEY'RE POINTING OUT NITPICKY STUFF, WE, IT MIGHT BE THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO IF IT'S INVALID.
WE NEVER EVEN LET THE NEIGHBOR KNOW THAT, HEY, YOU WERE, IT WAS REPORTED.
NOW, JENNIFER, DON'T LET US PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH OR ACTIONS ONTO YOUR FEET THAT ARE NOT TRUE.
SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT ISN'T TRUE, HOLLER AT US.
WELL WHAT'S THE TRIGGER ON THAT THOUGH? IF YOU, I MEAN, IS IT JENNIFER MONITORING IT AND SEEING 10 REPORTS FROM ANONYMOUS PERSON FOR ONE? I MEAN, MAYBE THEY'RE ACTUAL, TECHNICALLY THEY ARE.
WELL, AND, AND HERE'S, HERE'S I AGREE.
SO I MEAN, IF THEY'RE INVALID, MAYBE WE START LOOKING AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS JUST SOMEBODY TARGETING A NEIGHBOR.
NOW I'M GONNA PUT HIS NAME OUT THERE BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW DAVID LANCE MM-HMM.
HE, HE DIDN'T MAKE ANONYMOUS REPORTS.
HE CAME TO US AND, AND SAID, HEY, I'VE GOT THIS ISSUE.
IT WAS A EMPTY HOUSE OWNED BY AN INVESTOR OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
AND IT TOOK US A LONG TIME TO TAKE CARE OF THAT HOUSE.
SO, I MEAN, IF WE HAD SOMEBODY LIKE DAVID THAT WANTED TO REPORT IT ANONYMOUSLY BECAUSE MAYBE HE, THERE WAS A NEIGHBOR THERE, BUT THEY WERE VALID ISSUES, I THINK WE'VE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF THOSE VALID ISSUES.
UM, BUT IF IT'S, HEY, THEY PARKED 18 INCHES AWAY FROM THE CURB, ARE WE REALLY GONNA SPEND TIME ON THAT? VERY OFTEN? UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, HEY, THEY'VE GOT RACCOONS GOING INTO THEIR ATTIC, THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE NEED TO GO LOOK AT.
HELLO, I'M CHRIS GOLIC, LIVE AT 1149 SCOTTSDALE.
UM, MY MAIN CONCERN WITH THE ANONYMOUS THING IS THE ABILITY TO ABUSE IT.
AND WE LIVE IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAS THE SIXTH AMENDMENT WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO CONFRONT OR AT LEAST FACE OUR ACCUSERS IF ONE TIME, ONE TIME THAT IS ABUSED AND IT'S A FALSE REPORT, WE HAVE BASICALLY INVALIDATED THE SIX AMENDMENT, NOT AS, THIS IS NOT A CRIMINAL THING, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY APPLY HERE, BUT THE SPIRIT OF IT SHOULD.
WE'VE TAKEN AWAY RESOURCES FROM OUR CODE ENFORCE.
NOW KEEP IN MIND I LOVE CODE ENFORCEMENT.
I LOVE THAT WE HAVE A GREAT CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WHO'S GREAT TO INTERFACE WITH.
I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
BUT IF WE TAKE HER AWAY FROM VALID CODES THAT CAN BE INVESTIGATED OR THINGS THAT ARE ANONYMOUS, THAT'S A WASTE OF TIME.
AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THAT ANONYMOUS, THAT ABILITY TO ENABLE ANONYMOUS ALLOWS PEOPLE TO BE TARGETED.
AND IF IT HAPPENS ONCE, IT'S NOT WORTH IT.
IF IT HAPPENS, ONCE YOU'VE MADE ONE PERSON FEEL LIKE THEY'RE ALIENATED FROM EVERYBODY, THEIR NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES BEHIND THEM, EVERYBODY FIRST LEMME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
AND DO WE REALLY WANT TO BE A COMMUNITY THAT REPORTS THEIR NEIGHBORS? OR DO WE WANT TO BE A COMMUNITY THAT KNOCKS ON THE DOOR AND SAYS, HEY, I SEE YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.
LET ME HELP, I WANT TO GRAB YOU TRAIN ON THAT TRACK OF PHONE.
CAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IT'S, UH, NOT DIRECT INFLUX OR WITH THE SICK CONFLICT WITH SIX AMENDMENT, HOWEVER THE SPIRIT IS THERE.
BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE GOING OUT.
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DO YOU FEEL THAT IF JENNIFER GOES OUT, KNOCKS ON THE DOOR, HANDS THEM A YELLOW TAG OR JUST SPEAKS WITH 'EM BECAUSE SOMEBODY ANONYMOUSLY REPORTED THEM? DO YOU FEEL THERE IS, UH, THE ABILITY TO BE IN INTIMIDATING OR ABSOLUTELY.YOU'RE HAVING SOMEBODY ELSE DOING, YOU'RE SOMEBODY ELSE'S.
YOU'RE HAVING SOMEBODY ELSE DO YOUR BIDDING.
UM, THAT'S MY, THE, THE IDEA OF THE ANONYMOUS IS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET RETALIATED FROM OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT IF I HAVE A LEGITIMATE CODE VIOLATION, MY NEIGHBOR HAS EVERY REASON TO RETALIATE OR TO TURN ME IN, I WANNA PUT MY NAME ON THAT.
IF ANYBODY IN THE CITY HAS AN ISSUE AND THEY WANNA REPORT SOMETHING ANONYMOUS, I'LL REPORT IT FOR YOU.
SEE, CHRIS, YOU AND I, WE DON'T NEED ANONYMOUS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE JUST AFRAID OF SOCIETY.
AND SO YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE AFRAID TO REPORT THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT IS MY NEIGHBOR GONNA COME SHOOT ME? AND RIGHT OR WRONG, THAT'S THE SOCIETY WE LIVE IN.
I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA REVERSE THIS ON YOU.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT SOMEBODY DOING YOUR BILL BIDDING.
IF WE DON'T ALLOW FOR THE ANONYMOUS, WE WILL ALIENATE THAT PORTION OF SOCIETY THAT IS AFRAID TO SPEAK UP.
YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT THOUGH.
I MEAN, THAT YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE, CHRIS, RIGHT? AND BUT THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT WOULD DO THEIR BIDDING FOR THEM.
WELL, HOW WOULD THEY KNOW ABOUT THE ANONYMOUS PART THOUGH? IF THEY KNOW ABOUT THE ANONYMOUS PART? THEY WOULD KNOW OF ME.
THEY'LL, OFTENTIMES THE QUESTION WAS HOW DO THEY KNOW? BECAUSE IF JENNIFER GOES UP AND LEAVES HIM A TAG OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, AND THEY SAID, WELL, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS? WELL, WE HAD A COMPLAINT.
WELL, FROM WHO? ANONYMOUS? UH, NO, THAT'S THE CONVERSATION.
IT IT, IT'S, YOU'RE PUTTING NEIGHBORS AGAINST NEIGHBORS.
I MEAN, IT, IT JUST, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE OUR, YOU KNOW, ONE SQUARE MILE FOR OUR PLACE FOR LIFE.
IT, IT JUST SEEMS RIGHT FOR ABUSE.
UM, IT'S DIVISIVE AND IT'S NOT WHO WE WANT TO BE.
WHAT, WHAT STOPS SOMEONE FROM DOING, YOU KNOW, JANE DOE ARE MAKING UP A MORE LEGITIMATE SOUNDING NAME OR EVEN PUTTING A DIFFERENT EMAIL ADDRESS OR NAME THAT MAYBE IS ONE OF THEIR NEIGHBORS.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO VERIFY THAT.
THIS, IN ORDER FOR ME TO STAND HERE, I HAVE TO LIVE HERE.
I HAVE TO GIVE MY NAME, MY ADDRESS.
SO THE ANONYMOUS THING WOULD BE VETTED BY GIVING YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND THAT IF YOU DON'T LIVE HERE, YOUR ADDRESS DOESN'T MATCH UP.
YOU DON'T GET TO REPORT WET ANONYMOUS RIGHT NOW, JOHN DOE OR JOHN BLACK.
SO ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I ASKED WAS, UM, IS THERE A WAY TO TRACK THESE ANONYMOUS? AND THE ANSWER TO FROM, FROM YOU GUYS IS THAT NO, YOU GUYS CAN'T.
BUT FORENSICALLY WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO TRACK NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
WHO ARE YOU AND WHERE, WHAT'D YOU DO WITH CHRIS COLLINS? WHAT, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS IT IS, IT IS POSSIBLE TO TRACK, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IF IT CAME DOWN TO THE NECESSITY OF NEEDING TO TRACK, IT'S TRACKABLE.
UM, SO THEREFORE YOU CAN'T REALLY CALL IT ANONYMOUS AND IT BE TRUTHFUL.
IF I NEEDED TO, I COULD FIND OUT WHO IT WAS.
UM, SO WE SHOULD START REFERRING IT TO IT AS SEMI-ANONYMOUS.
WELL, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT YOU YOU'RE OFFERING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE INSINUATING THERE'S A LEVEL OF PROTECTION THERE THAT'S TRULY NOT THERE.
I, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE REASON IT'S IN THERE, CHRIS, AND YOU AND I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION FOR ABOUT AN HOUR.
WELL, BOTH OF US LEFT DISSATISFIED.
I, I SIT HERE TONIGHT WITH THE SAME WAY KURT HAS HIS FEELINGS ON IT.
I'M SITTING THERE WITH SAME WAY IT IS TO ALLOW FOLKS TO COME IN THERE AND TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITY TO HELP THE CITY WITHOUT PUTTING THEIR NAME ON IT.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S JUST CUZ PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED.
MY SISTER WOULD NEVER EVER DO IT.
IF SHE HAD TO PUT HER NAME ON IT, SHE JUST WOULDN'T DO IT.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE TOO.
SHE DOESN'T WANNA BE INVOLVED.
SO I DON'T KNOW CHRIS, I I, WE MAY HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH THE REST OF THIS, BUT I, I DON'T GET TO VOTE.
SO HOW, HOW LONG HAVE WE HAD THE ANONYMOUS REPORTING SINCE IT STARTED? I CAN'T, UH, THIS IS STARTED OF WHAT? THE ANONYMOUS GEN, UH, JENNIFER, THIS WAS HERE WHEN YOU CAME? CORRECT.
AND IT WAS ANONYMOUS AT THAT TIME.
AND HOW LONG YOU BEEN HERE? THREE YEARS.
YOU DON'T KNOW YOU THREE YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE SEVEN.
AND IT'S, AND AND REMEMBER BEFORE
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WE HAD THE ELECTRONIC REPORTING SYSTEM, PEOPLE WOULD JUST CALL UP HERE BEFORE YOU HAD CALLER ID.COULD YOU REITERATE THE AMOUNT OF ANONYMOUS AND THEN HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE UNFRUITFUL? THE YEAH, I'VE GOT IT HERE.
THE ANONYMOUS, UH, COMPLAINTS WERE 135.
OF THAT 135, UH, 26 WERE INVALID.
AND THOSE 26 HAVE TO BE INVESTIGATED WITH THE SAME FEVER AS THE ONES THAT WERE VALID, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO THAT'S A WASTE OF RESOURCE.
AND WHAT HAPPENS, JENNIFER, WHEN YOU GET THERE AND YOU FIND OUT THEY ARE INVALID? IT'S MARKED INVALID AND THE CASE IS CLOSED UNTIL IT'S REPORTED TOMORROW, THEY NEED TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE HOMEOWNER IN THAT SITUATION.
WHAT'S OUR, WHAT'S OUR TYPICAL ANONYMOUS ONE THAT WAS INVALID.
DO WE KNOW, JENNIFER, YOU NEED, NEED TO STEP UP HERE.
SHE WAS TRYING TO HIDE, LET ME REPHRASE WHETHER IT WAS ANONYMOUS OR THEY LEFT THEIR NAME.
HOW MANY OF THE REPORTS, PERCENTAGE-WISE ARE INVALID? IT SOUNDS LIKE 15% FOR THIS YEAR.
THE NUMBERS THAT MAYOR GAVE YOU WERE, UH, NUMBERS THAT I ACTUALLY, UH, VALIDATED.
WHAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF AN INVALID ONE THAT YOU, YOU CHECKED OUT AND YOU GOT THERE AND IT WASN'T, A LOT OF THEM ARE HIGH GRASS OR, UM, TRASH IN THE YARD OR ACCUMULATIONS IN THE YARD.
UM, SOMETIMES IT'S A TRASH CANE OUT IN THE FRONT.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE THE TYPICAL ONES.
SO THEY COULD BE REPORTED, YOU GET IT ON A SATURDAY, YOU DON'T GET TO SEE IT UNTIL MONDAY.
THEY MOWED THEIR YARD ON A SUNDAY.
IT'S CONSIDERED INVALID BECAUSE THEY DID IT AFTER IT WAS REPORTED BEFORE YOU SAW IT.
AND SO THEREFORE THERE'S NO PUNISHMENT TOWARD IT GOES TOWARD THAT HOMEOWNER, IT'S JUST MARKED INVALID.
IN THAT CASE, THE CASE IS ALSO CLOSED OF SIMULTANEOUS.
AND SO I I WOULD SAY THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE THINGS THAT ARE REPORTED ARE HIGH GRASS GARBAGE CANS, MAYBE MILDEW OR SOMETHING ON THE HOUSE, ACCUMULATIONS OF LITTER AND RUBBISH, THINGS LIKE THAT OF RUBBISH OR, YOU KNOW, YARD ART.
ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE MORE MAJOR THAT GET REPORTED TO YOU ANONYMOUSLY? UM, ANONYMOUSLY OR NO, JUST THAT GET REPORT? UM, YES.
I'VE HAD INSTANCES WHERE BACKYARDS WERE FULL OF TRASH IN ACCUMULATIONS.
WHETHER IT'S A, WHETHER IT'S BLACK POOL OR OVERGROWTH AND ALL THE WEEDS AND ENVIRONMENTS.
AND THOSE ARE ONES WE HAVE TO GET BECAUSE WE CAN'T SEE THE BACKYARD.
AND SO IF WE DO AWAY WITH THE ANONYMOUS REPORTING, WE MIGHT NOT GET THOSE REPORTS.
OF THOSE ONES THAT YOU MENTIONED AND THAT I MENTIONED AS WELL.
UM, THOSE WERE ACTUALLY KNOWN COMPLAINANTS THAT ACTUALLY EMAILED ME WITH THEIR OKAY.
WE'RE ASKING REGARDING RIGHT NOW, JENNIFER, SPEAK TO US ON THE ONES THAT COME IN OVER THE INTERNET THAT THOSE PEOPLE, IF THEY DO THAT, ARE THEY KNOWN TO YOU? YES.
IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING DIRECTLY? IF THEY, IF THEY PUT THEIR NAME, IF, IF THEY PUT THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION MM-HMM.
NOW ARE THERE ANY SERIOUS ONES THAT HAVE COME INTO YOU ANONYMOUSLY? ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT? THERE HAVE BEEN, YES.
WE, YEAH, IF SOMEBODY, IF SOMEBODY REPORTS ANONYMOUSLY A BLACK POOL MM-HMM.
WELL, AND THE THING IS, THE THING IS, LIKE THE BLACK POOL ONE, IF THEY REPORTED THAT ANONYMOUSLY AND WE CAN'T GET INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S BACKYARD, WE, WE PROBABLY CAN'T EVEN GO LOOK AT THAT POOL.
CAUSE SHE CAN'T GO PAST THE FRONT DOOR.
NOW THAT'S A HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE ISSUE AND WE WILL ADDRESS THAT, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT AS THE POINT.
I THINK THE NEIGHBORLY THING TO DO IS TO GO AND TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBOR.
I MEAN THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE FOR YEARS.
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THAT THE NEIGHBORLY WAY OF DOING THINGS HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS, UNFORTUNATELY.UM, MOST ANOTHER GOOD REASON FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, GET TO KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS.
THERE'S NEIGHBORS WHO DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ON THE STREETS.
THERE'S NEW NEIGHBORS THAT ARE MOVING IN AND I'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN ANYBODY.
I'VE SEEN CARS, BUT I'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN A PERSON.
I'VE ALSO HEARD OF STORIES OF NEIGHBORS WHERE THEY HAVE TALKED TO EACH OTHER AND IT'S JUST TOXIC NOW AND THEY CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER.
UM, I AGREE THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO, TO TALK TO SOMEBODY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF JENNIFER SHOWS UP AT MY DOOR WITH A VIOLATION, IF IT'S A TRUE VIOLATION, I DON'T REALLY CARE WHO TURNED ME IN.
UM, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT PEOPLE ABUSING THE SYSTEM.
AND SO THERE SHOULD BE A WAY FOR US TO KIND OF MONITOR THAT.
UM, AND JENNIFER, I KNOW WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE, YOU SEE IF THEY ARE FRUITFUL OR NOT FRUITFUL AND IF THEY'RE NOT, YOU KIND OF MOVE ON.
I COULD THINK, I GUESS AT THAT POINT.
IT'S JUST THE TIME THAT WAS TAKEN OUT.
JENNIFER, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
YOU'RE GONNA, YOU COME BEFORE COUNSEL ONCE A QUARTER.
AND YOU HAND IN ALL KIND OF FANCY REPORT NUMBERS AND TELLING ME PEOPLE YOU HAD ARRESTED AND HAULED OFF AND ALL THAT STUFF.
CAN YOU PUT A REPORT IN HERE THAT WOULD INCLUDE NUMBER OF ANONYMOUS TIPS FOR VIOLATION AND OF THOSE HOW MANY WERE VALID OR INVALID? YES.
IF YOU KNOW AHEAD OF TIME TO SECURE THAT INFORMATION, YOU CAN DO THAT.
WELL I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO FROM NOW ON, INCLUDE THAT LITTLE BOX IN THAT BEAUTIFUL REPORT THAT YOU MAKE UP.
COUNSEL, WOULD THAT SATISFY US? NO, WE CAN MONITOR.
OKAY, CHRIS? I THINK, UH, THAT'S ABOUT THE BEST WE CAN DO, I THINK.
SO WE'LL GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
AND I'M TELLING YOU, WE GOT A GENIUS COUNCIL.
HOW ABOUT IT? YOU READY? THANK YOU JENNA.
UM, DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSSION IN CONSIDERATION REGARDING HALLOWEEN AND CITY OF MEADOWS PLACE, TEXAS.
UM, I WANT TO START THIS OFF BY SAYING, OH, AND WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, SO LET ME OPEN MIND AND THEN WE'LL LET THE PUBLIC HAVE IT.
I DID SOMETHING THAT I HADN'T DONE BEFORE THIS YEAR.
I, UH, ASKED THE CHIEF TO HAVE SOMEBODY PICK ME UP AT MY HOUSE AND TIL ME AROUND TOWN IN OUR NEW ATV.
THEY CAME AND, UH, PICKED ME UP IN MY HOUSE AND I TOOK OFF AND I WENT AROUND THE CITY IN THE ATV.
UM, BOY WAS THAT A LOT OF FUN.
UM, GOT TO ROLL DOWN THE WINDOW AND SAY HAPPY HALLOWEEN.
SEE ALL THE DECORATIONS AND ALL THE PEOPLE AND ALL THE KIDS UP CLOSE.
I DON'T HAVE KIDS ANYMORE, SO IT'S KIND OF FUN FOR ME.
BUT I LEARNED SOMETHING A WHOLE LOT ABOUT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I JUST IMAGINED THOSE GUYS GETTING IN THEIR CAR AND RIDING AROUND THE CITY IN THE POLICE CAR WITH THEIR LIGHTS ON CUZ WE GOT REALLY COOL LIGHTS NOW AND WAVING AT EVERYBODY IN.
THAT WAS BASICALLY WHAT THEY DID.
IT IS A REAL LIFE PROFESSIONAL POLICE OPERATION.
YOU GOT THE FOLKS DOWN HERE AT THE CITY HALL AND, AND THAT, UH, DISPATCH WORKING IN THEIR EARS.
YOU HAVE ALL THE OFFICERS IN THE DIFFERENT CARS TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER.
THEY'RE MOVING, THEY'RE RELOCATING BASED ON PEOPLE THEY SEE.
SAY WE'RE SEEING SUCH AND SUCH MOVING OFF OF HERE.
THERE'S A LITTLE TRAFFIC UP HERE, THERE'S AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC DOWN HERE.
UH, AND SO PEOPLE WERE SHUFFLING AND MOVING AND RESPONDING TO ALL THAT INFORMATION.
I UNDERSTOOD, UH, THREE, FOUR WORDS OUT EVERY HUNDRED.
BUT IT WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE THAT THOSE GUYS COULD, AND THEY WORKED THAT INFORMATION.
AND CHIEF, I, I THINK I KNOW I TOLD YOU, I WAS JUST SO DARN IMPRESSED BY THE, THE PROFESSIONALISM OF OUR OFFICERS AND HOW SERIOUSLY THEY TOOK THAT BUS THAT, UH, THEIR BUSINESS DRIVING AROUND HALLOWEEN.
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ALWAYS, BUT THIS YEAR I WENT AND DROVE DOWN SCOTTSDALE.BUT, UH, AGAIN, CHIEF, I JUST, MY HAT'S OFF TO THE POLICE AND THEIR, UH, ABILITY TO MOVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND MONITOR WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO CALL AUDREY ST.
HE WANTS TO TALK TO US ABOUT HOW I DO.
HI, I HAVEN'T MET EVERYBODY UP HERE.
I TEACH AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
I MOVED, UM, TO MEADOWS AFTER WANTING TO MOVE TO MEADOWS FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.
UM, I MOVED TO MEADOWS IN NOVEMBER OF 2020.
SO THIS IS OUR SECOND HALLOWEEN.
UM, I HAVE THREE YOUNG DAUGHTERS.
I'VE GOT A SIXTH GRADER, A FOURTH GRADER, AND A SECOND GRADER.
SO WE'RE STILL TRICK OR TREATING AND DOING THE WHOLE WHOLE BIT.
UM, SO I WANTED TO TALK AFTER A WALKING HALLOWEEN THIS YEAR.
MY HUSBAND STAYS AT OUR HOUSE AND PASSES OUT, UM, PASSES OUT FULL SIZE CANDY BARS ON THE VERY, VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT COME DOWN MEADOWDALE.
AND SO I USUALLY JUST TAKE THE GIRLS BY MYSELF.
UM, BUT UH, THE LAST TWO YEARS, LIKE I SAID, I'VE TAKEN THE KIDS BY MYSELF AND WE DO LIKE THE ALSTON, DORIN, SCOTTSDALE AND THEN GO HOME.
LIKE WE'RE NOT OUT VERY, VERY LATE.
UM, BUT IT'S, AND I THINK PART OF WHY WE MOVED TO MEADOWS WAS THAT IT IS JUST THIS LOVELY COMMUNITY, UM, AND THAT PEOPLE REALLY DO CARE.
AND SCOTTSDALE REALLY DOES IT SO BIG AND ALMOST EVERY HOUSE IS OPEN.
ALSTON ALSO ALMOST EVERY SINGLE HOUSE IS OPEN.
UM, THIS YEAR, UH, I WAS RUNNING INTO A MILLION STUDENTS, WHICH WAS SO LOVELY, BUT, AND I DID SEE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I LOVED HEARING THAT.
I LOVED HEARING THAT IN THE LAST 10 YEARS WE HAVE HAD LITTLE TO NO INCIDENTS.
UM, BUT I, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID THINK WAS A PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY COMING AROUND THE CORNER ON ALSTON, WAS SOMETIMES THERE WOULD BE LIKE TRAFFIC MOVE OR LIKE CARS MOVING AND LIKE KIDS GETTING OUT AND, AND GOING IN FROM EITHER SIDE OF THE CAR.
UM, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE COMING AROUND THAT CURVE, IT WAS HARD TO SEE.
UM, LIKE AND THE KIDS ARE GOING FROM ONE HOUSE TO THE OTHER HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET TRYING TO GET TO ALL OF THE PORCH LIGHTS.
UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF STREETS.
OR EVEN, EVEN IF IT WAS JUST SMALL, UM, EVEN IF IT WAS JUST SCOTTSDALE, IF WE COULD JUST BLOCK OFF ONE STREET, UM, I AND FOR LIKE ONE HOUR, LIKE IT DOESN'T, WE COULD START, WE COULD JUST DO IT FOR JUST A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IF WE ADVERTISE LIKE, HEY PARENTS FROM FIVE 30 TO SIX 30 THERE WILL BE NO TRAFFIC ON SCOTTSDALE.
LIKE WE'RE GONNA BLOCK OFF THE STREET FOR ONE HOUR.
I WOULD READ THAT AND GO, GIRLS ARE GONNA SCOTTSDALE FROM FIVE 30 TO SIX 30.
AND ADDITIONALLY, LIKE IT DOESN'T, LIKE I SAID, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HUGE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE IT THIS LIKE FIVE 30 TO EIGHT 30 THING.
BUT IT, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US BLOCK OFF ONE OR TWO STREETS FOR THIS JUST, JUST FOR A SMALL BIT OF TIME SO THAT WE COULD KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT, IF I CHOSE TO TAKE MY KIDS IN THAT TIME THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE STREET TRAFFIC.
NUMBER TWO, BECAUSE THESE STREETS ARE SO LOVELY AND DO SO MUCH FOR OUR COMMUNITY DURING HALLOWEEN, UM, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO COORDINATE OR DO SOME SORT OF LIKE CANDY SHARE PROGRAM.
UM, WHERE LIKE I DON'T LIVE ON SCOTTSDALE.
WE GET VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC ON MY STREET.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DONATE TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON SCOTTSDALE BECAUSE SUCH A LOVELY THING FOR US TO HAVE THAT THEY DECORATE THEIR YARDS AND THAT SO MANY OF THE HOUSES ARE OPEN.
UM, AND I WOULD LOVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT I'M NOT ALONE.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO WOULD BE LIKE, YES, I'LL TAKE 10 BAGS OF CANDY TO SCOTTSDALE.
SO ANYWAYS, THAT'S ALL HE REALLY HAD TO SAY.
I FEEL LIKE I FEEL LIKE MONITORING, OR NOT JUST MONITORING, BUT STOPPING STREET TRAFFIC ON AT LEAST SCOTTSDALE MAYBE AWESOME AND SCOTTSDALE.
I THINK THAT WOULD JUST REALLY HELP.
WE HAVE PARKING FACILITIES AVAILABLE, LIKE WE HAVE PARKING LOTS AVAILABLE AT THE SCHOOL AND AT THE GRAVEL PARKING LOT I THINK.
I THINK THAT WE COULD, I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOLVABLE AND I SO APPRECIATED THE POLICE OFFICER'S PRESENCE.
UM, BUT I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT.
I THINK THAT PARENTS WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HAVE NO STREET TRAFFIC FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
SCOTTSDALE, SHE SHE'LL ACCEPT YOUR CANDY.
I NOW, IF YOU'RE AN OLD TIMER, LIKE I AM IN THE MEADOWS, BACK IN THE DAY ON MONTECITO AT CHRISTMAS TIME WE USED TO HAVE THE CHRISTMAS HOUSE AND THE POLICE WOULD BLOCK OFF MONTECITO GOING ONE DIRECTION.
WE HAVE TO COME AROUND AND, AND I THINK IT COULD ALSO BE DONE AT HALLOWEEN.
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I MEAN I HATE TO BRAG ON MY STREET, UH, BUT WE HAVE KIDS AND I POSTED PICTURES, CARS COME IN BOTH DIRECTIONS FROM MY RING CAMERA.IT WAS JUST BED 'EM OUT THERE AND KIDS ARE RUNNING ACROSS THE STREET.
AND I FINALLY HAD TO GO INSIDE CUZ I WAS LIKE HAVING POST-TRAUMATIC SYNDROME CUZ WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, ONE OF MY NEIGHBOR KIDS FRIENDS, HE GOT HIT BY A CAR AND HE WAS NEVER THE SAME SINCE HE WAS, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE GROWN UP, HE WAS LONG TIME PATIENT.
MY DAD RETIRED DENTIST PRACTICE, HE'D COME IN AND TALK TO ME.
LIKE WE WERE ALL STILL EIGHT YEARS OLD.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU ASK KELLY, BUT WE, I WAS KELLY NOT LOOKING EIGHT OR ANYTHING, BUT WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING ON SCOTTSDALE, MAYBE ALSTON IF THEY THINK THEY'RE AS GOOD AS US.
BUT THAT WAS BESIDE THE POINT.
YOU KNOW, BRUCE SAID WE HANG OUT OVER 2000 PIECES OF CANDY ITEMS, GLOW STICKS, WHATEVER BETWEEN HIM AND JACKIE.
WE'RE NOT DUMPING HANDFULS AND WE'RE LITERALLY OPENING ONE PIECE FOR YOU.
OH, BRUCE NEVER GAVE OUT ONE PIECE OF CANDY MEETING
WELL, I GUESS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE IF WE CAN'T BLOCK THE WHOLE STREET OFF, IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST DO A ONE-WAY TRAFFIC? AND I KNOW YOU GUYS, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE OR YEAH, YOU GOTTA FIGURE OUT SOMETHING ON, RIGHT? SO THE THING ABOUT BLOCKING TRAFFIC, UM, IS YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOSING THOSE OFFICERS THAT ARE DOING THAT.
THEY'RE NOT MOVING AROUND NOW.
AND PART OF THE SCHEDULING THAT WE DO THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE AN ACCOUNT IS MY OFFICERS ALREADY WORKED 12 HOUR DAYS, THEY'RE COMING IN FOR ANOTHER FOUR HOURS.
SO IF WE DO THAT, I HAVE TO MOVE PERSONNEL AROUND AND THEN WHAT TIME ARE WE GONNA START? THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS IF YOU TAKE TWO OFFICERS TO BLOCK OFF THAT STREET OR YOU SAY, OKAY, WELL WE'LL JUST PUT OUT BARRICADES.
WELL I CAN TELL YOU BARRICADES ARE GONNA GET MOVED UH, AS THE TRAFFIC FLOW COMES THROUGH.
THE OTHER THING IS WHEN YOU START BLOCKING OFF STREETS, YOU JUST MENTIONED YOUR COMPETITION AND THEY'RE GONNA WANT, THERE'S BLOCKED OFF.
AND WHEN YOU START BLOCKING OFF EVERY STREET, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS TO MOVE AROUND.
SO WE'VE GOTTA BE CAREFUL ABOUT BLOCKING THAT OFF.
PLUS THERE'S ALSO THE FACT OF WHO'S GONNA SELECT THOSE STREETS.
CUZ NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOMEONE TO SAY, NO, YOU'RE SELECTIVE BECAUSE OF THIS REASON.
SO WHAT WE WANT TO, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO BE MO MOBILE IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS OFFICERS, WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING AROUND AT ALL DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITIES.
WE'RE MONITORING THINGS THE BEST WE CAN.
WHEN I FIRST BECAME CHIEF, UH, THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION, WE ONLY HAD LIKE FOUR OR FIVE, MAYBE FIVE OFFICERS OUT WE'RE DOUBLED THAT NOW OUT.
UH, I FIGURED WE HAD AT LEAST 2,500 KIDS OUT.
I MEAN IT WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE AND WE SELECT THE TIMES THAT WERE OUT BASED ON THAT TRAFFIC FLOW FROM PAST HISTORY.
THAT'S WHY FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE HOURS OF RIGHT BEFORE DUSK AND TRYING TO STAY OUT TO THE, AS WE CALL IT, THE BE WITCHING HOURS WHEN YOU'RE GONNA RUN INTO PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST, COULD BE TROUBLE.
SO WE WE'RE SELECTING THAT BASED ON PAST HISTORY AS FAR AS BLOCKING OFF STREETS, UM, THAT WOULD BE A COUNCIL DECISION IF YOU DECIDE TO DO IT.
UH, WE, UH, I DON'T SUGGEST IT CUZ YOU'RE LOSING PERSONNEL.
YOU'RE GONNA TIE UP TWO OFFICERS ON ONE STREET AND THOSE TWO OR TWO OFFICERS AREN'T MOVING AROUND ANYMORE.
MAY I PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE? NO.
USE THE PARK AND SCHOOL PARKING LOT AND DO SET UP BOOTHS GOING ALL THE WAY AROUND THE TRACK AND TRY TO PULL THESE KIDS MORE TOWARDS THE PARK RATHER THAN ON THE STREET.
WE CAN CONTROL AN AREA LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEN IF YOU MAKE IT A CITY FUNCTION, WE CAN CLOSE, YOU CAN CLOSE DOWN STREETS, BLOCK OFF THAT AREA AND HAVE OFFICERS RUNNING THROUGH.
BUT WHEN WE HAVE SUCH ACTIVITY RUNNING THROUGH THE ENTIRE CITY, WE HAVE TO BE MOVE EVERYWHERE.
IT MAY BE AN ISSUE THE FIRST YEAR UNTIL PEOPLE LEARN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS PEOPLE MORE TO THE PARK.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT MIGHT BE AN ALTERNATIVE.
I'M SURE THE PARKS DIRECTOR WOULD LOVE THAT.
I DON'T, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
BUT YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TRICK OR TREATERS GOING HOUSE TO HOUSE.
SO YOU'RE, WE'RE WE'RE YOU'RE GIVING UP PERSONNEL.
I I ONLY HAVE SO MANY OFFICERS.
OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR JUST BLOCKING THE STREET.
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THAT THEY'RE GONNA MOVE IT, BUT I MEAN YOU CAN PUT HUMMERS THERE AND THAT'S FINE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE LIGHTS ON THEM.SO THEN THEY BECOME A SAFETY HAZARD THEMSELVES.
AND AND THE SECOND THING IS, I'M NOT GONNA PUT A POLICE CAR THERE CAUSE I USE EVERY POLICE CAR I GOT WHILE WE'RE MOW MOVING AROUND ON THE, ON THE HALLOWEEN.
APPRECIATE THE CREATIVE THINKING.
I'M JUST BRINGING UP ALL THE ISSUES I HAVE TO, I WOULD HAVE TO WORK AND, UH, MITIGATE RECORD.
ARE WE USING OUR RESERVES ON HALLOWEEN? WE USE EVERY AVAILABLE PERSONNEL THAT WE CAN GET.
IT TAKES, UH, WELL WE USE ALL OVER FULL TIME.
AND THEN SO YOU'RE TALKING, UH, WE USUALLY HAVE 15 OR 20 OFFICERS OUT ON A, A CITY EVENT.
NOW ON HALLOWEEN WE'LL USE 10, BUT I'M, I STILL HAVE TO PAY OVERTIME FOR THAT.
BUT IT'S ON A LESSER SCALE AND IT'S NOT BUDGETED BECAUSE I'M THE ONE WHO, WHO INCREASED THAT.
BUT I THINK WHAT COLLEEN'S BRINGING AROUND IS, OKAY, WE DEPLOY ALL THOSE OFFICERS TO THE PARK.
YEAH, YOU CAN USE MORE OFFICERS AT THE PARK, KIDS RUNNING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE MORE OFFICERS ON A CITY EVENT BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE A PERIMETER WE HAVE TO CONTROL.
UNLESS WE TOLD EVERYBODY ON SCOTTSDALE TO TAKE THEIR DECORATIONS DOWN,
I'M, I'M JUST, UH, I'M JUST BRINGING UP THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MITIGATED.
YOU, THERE'S A, IT'S NOT ONLY ILLEGAL, BUT UH, YOU WOULD HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AFTER YOU'RE VERY BUSY.
I'M GONNA START A TOW TRUCK BUSINESS NEXT.
ARE YOU SUGGESTING YOU JUST RAN OUTTA GAS AT THAT TIME AND IT WAS JUST BROKE DOWN? BUT NOW WE KNOW IT, WE KNOW A RECORD DROPPER.
SO, SO THEY GET LIKE A PERMIT.
LIKE NO, AND WE, AND AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, WE CAN, THE MERIT OR I COULD DECIDE TO BLOCK DOWN THE STREET, BUT THE PROBLEM IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA WANT TO DO THAT AFTER THEY SEE IT DONE.
AND RESOURCES IS WHAT I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO ALLOCATE
AND SO A AS THE PERSON THAT ADDRESSES THIS FOR THE COUNTY, WHENEVER THIS QUESTION COMES UP, UM, AND, AND WE, AND WE SHUT DOWN STREETS FOR FIVE KS, 10 KS, ALL THIS STUFF.
WE ALWAYS GET COMPLAINTS FROM SOMEONE ABOUT BEING INCONVENIENCED.
SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE GONNA LOVE THIS AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE THE SOMEBODY THAT GOES, I NEED TO LEAVE FOR MY SHIFT.
OR I'M A DOCTOR ON CALL AND THEY'VE GOTTA GO AND THEY'RE GONNA DRIVE IT.
AND UM, IT, IT'S JUST MORE COMPLICATION THAN YOU, THAN YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT.
THERE'S A BIG PLAN THAT HAS TO, TO HAVE TO GO IN PLACE.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR ME? LIKE I HAVE
AND I, FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP HERE AND ADDRESSING CITY COUNCIL A LOT.
UM, WE SOMETIMES IMAGINE WHAT WE WOULD, WOULD HEAR OR WE IMAGINE WHAT PEOPLE WOULD SAY, BUT THAT GUESSWORK IS GONE WHEN YOU COME UP AND ADDRESS US.
WE HEARD THE REPORT TONIGHT THAT WE HAD NO INCIDENTS THIS HALLOWEEN.
UM, I WAS AMAZED AT THE NUMBER OF KIDS I LEFT OUTTA CITY HALL THAT NIGHT, OH 6 10, 6 15.
AND I TURNED THE CORNER DOWN, UH, BLOOMINGTON DOWN TO, UH, ON, UH, BROOK, UH, BROOK MATTER HERE.
AND I HADN'T GONE THREE HOUSES AND KIDS SHOT ACROSS THE STREET.
AND GUESS WHAT? BY THE TIME I KEPT GOING, I SAW 'EM ALL NIGHT LONG AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, MY KIDS PROBABLY DID THAT TOO.
AND WHAT CAN I SAY? SO I FEEL BLESSED THAT WE HAVE NO INCIDENTS.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'D ALSO NOTICED IT IS I TURNED THAT CORNER.
THERE WAS A COP CAR COUPLE THREE BLOCKS UP RIGHT AROUND KIRKWOOD.
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SO THEY HAD COME OUT OF THERE AND GONE UP AND HAD LEFT AND STARTED PATROLLING IMMEDIATELY UPON LEAVING.AND THEY'D DISPERSED ACROSS THE CITY RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
I SAW CAPTAIN ASHTON ONCE, AND I THINK TWICE, I THINK IT WAS HIM TWICE THAT PATROLLED THE PARKING LOT.
UM, WE PATROLLED EVERY ASPECT OF THE CITY.
LIKE I SAID, IT WAS ASTOUNDING TO ME HOW MUCH COMMUNICATION WAS TAKING PLACE.
I I GOT BACK THE NEXT MORNING AND EVERYTHING YOU JUST ASKED AND TALKED ABOUT, I SAID, CHIEF, I GOT THESE REALLY GOOD IDEAS AND I WAS ALL EXCITED.
AND HE SAID, DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION THAT STARTED OFF WITH CHIEF? I GOT ALL THESE GOOD IDEAS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.
I I I I KNOW ONE THING THAT WE'RE CREATING MORE PROBLEMS IN MY MIND, CORRECT ME IF YOU THINK I'M JUST WRONG, IF WE, IF WE START DOING THIS AND, AND MOVING THINGS AROUND, THE BEST IDEA I'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS RICKS BECAUSE WE COULD DO THAT EXCEPT IF IT RAINS, IF IT'S A MESS, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A CATASTROPHE AND IT'S GONNA BE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO CLEAN UP.
PLUS WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL OF THE, UH, KIDS ON THE STREETS AND ALL OUR COPS ARE GONNA BE UP THERE.
SO I I'M, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF TRYING TO GET SOME PEOPLE TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT IT AT ANOTHER TIME IF YOU WANT.
AND AGAIN, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE THE WHOLE THING SAFE.
AND REALLY THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP KIDS FROM DATON NOW AND MAKING SURE THERE'S NO TRAFFIC IS TO SHUT IT DOWN EVERY STREET.
AND WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST NOT ABLE TO DO THAT SAFELY.
AND CHIEF, I JUST WANNA MENTION YOU.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT IN THE BUDGET.
SO IF THERE WAS A WAY TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN EXPENSE, BUT IF THAT'S, IT'S REALLY, IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE MONETARY EXPENSE.
UM, I CAN ONLY WORK THESE GUYS, I CAN ONLY WORK THE GUYS.
I CAN'T WORK 'EM MORE THAN 16 HOURS A DAY.
SO YOU'RE, THEY GOTTA HAVE DOWNTIME AS IT IS.
NOW, THE WAY I, I STAGED THEM COMING IN, YOU MAY HAVE SOME HOURS, THEY'RE COMING IN FOR FOUR HOURS ON THEIR OFF TIME, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE A 12 HOUR SHIFT OR THEY'RE HOLDING OVER FROM A 12 HOUR SHIFT.
SO THE ONLY WAY I CAN DO IT IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS COMING IN IS SPECIFIC TIME AS FAR AS SHUTTING DOWN STREETS.
UM, THEN YOU'RE GONNA LOSE PERSONNEL THAT ARE DOING THE PATROL.
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO BRING IN EXTRA STAFF LIKE WE DO FOR OTHER EVENTS? YES.
I MEAN YOU, WE CAN, AGAIN THOUGH, YOU'RE, UH, THOSE ARE EVENTS THAT WE'VE NOT ONLY JUST BUDGETED FOR, BUT WE PLAN FOR WITH TIME OFF SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE THOSE HOURS.
AND WHEN WE HAVE LIKE A HALLOWEEN, THAT'S REALLY NOT A, UH, CITY EVENT, THAT'S A NATIONAL EVENT.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS OF INCREASED PATROL EVERY YEAR BASED ON JUST WHAT WE'RE SEEING MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU ALSO NEED TO YOU TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS LIKE YOU SAID, A THIS IS A NATIONWIDE EVENT.
SO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ARE BEEFING UP THEIR ACTIVITIES.
SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF OFFICERS THAT ARE OFF THAT WE CAN PULL IN FROM.
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OFF DUTY OR PULLING THROUGH IS IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT.
AND WHEN I'M DOING THAT, THEN I'M REDUCING THE NUMBER OF HOURS THEY CAN DO THEIR REGULAR JOB WORK.
SO IF I HOLD SOMEONE OVER FOR 20 AND BRING THEM IN, WELL THEN WHO'S GONNA WORK THEIR NEXT SHIFT? YEAH.
UM, SO, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T BRING IN OFFICERS CUZ THE OTHER AGENCIES ARE USING THEM TOO.
WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT THE CERT GROUP COULD BE INVOLVED IN AS FAR AS BEING OUT THERE? SURE.
WE CAN USE THEM FOR IF NOW THAT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR YOU WANNA SHUT DOWN STREETS, BE HONEST WITH YOU, UH, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IT IF WE HAVE THE BAR CAGE, WE CAN HAVE SOMEONE DOING THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, OF COURSE YOU'RE COUNTING ON VOLUNTEERS.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO DO IT SAFELY.
SO WITHOUT GIVING FALSE PREOR THAT IF THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE OR THEY CAN'T DO IT OR THEY DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT OR PERSONNEL TO DO IT SAFELY, THEN THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT.
AND WE ONLY HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF THOSE AS WELL.
SO, BUT I MEAN THAT MIGHT IF IF TOGETHER A TEAM BETWEEN THAT YEAH.
IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND WE CAN, OR SCOTTSDALE, THE OTHER THING TOO IS, IS, IS MENTIONED WE HAVE A YEAR, SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE AND GET SOME VOLUNTEERS THAT WANT TO HELP AND SHUT DOWN CERTAIN AREAS WOULD THEY'VE TO GO THROUGH TRAINING WITH US.
BUT WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN AS WELL.
WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER TO LEAD IT UP.
BUT WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS SAYING THESE ARE, THIS IS WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE.
RIGHT? SO WHAT WE DO IS WE'D PROBABLY GET THE GROUP
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TOGETHER.I MEAN, AND WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, JUST THROW IN SOME IDEAS AROUND HERE, BRING YOU UP TO THE TRAINING CENTER.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE WEARING REFLECTIVE VESTS THAT THEY'VE BEEN TRAINED ON TRAFFIC PATROL CHIEF.
COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE PD IS SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO ADDRESS.
CHIEF, LET ME INTERRUPT A SECOND.
THIS YOUNG LADY WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
AND, AND THEN I WANT TO HEAR, BUT I, I'M THINKING THAT THIS IS A CALLING FOR ANOTHER DISCUSSION.
MAYBE A GROUP OF FOLKS GET TOGETHER.
KURT, MAYBE YOU HEAD UP AN AD HOC COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING TO GET SOME PEOPLE TOGETHER.
DO I HAVE TO SAY MY NAME AND STUFF? NAME? YOU HAVE TO GET UP THIS CLOSE TO THE MIC.
I LIVE ON 11 7 22 SCOTTSDALE DRIVE, BUT NOT THE GOOD SCOTTSDALE OF HALLOWEEN.
WE'RE A GOOD SCOTTSDALE JUST, WE'RE JUST NOT A HALLOWEEN SCOTTSDALE.
UM, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY IF, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY TO LIKE PUT TOGETHER A CAMPAIGN LEADING UP TO HALLOWEEN THAT SAYS, UM, SOMETHING ALONG THE LINE OF LIKE PARK AND THEN TRICK OR TREAT? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IS PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING TO TRICK OR TREAT.
SO LIKE, BUT LIKE, I FEEL LIKE IF THE CITY, LIKE IF THERE WERE LIKE, YOU LIKE YARD SIGNS, THEY'RE LIKE, WHERE DO THOSE PEOPLE AND THEN TRICK OR TREAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE YEAH.
AND IF IT'S LIKE SOMETHING THAT LIKE WE, LIKE THE CAMERA LIKE PUTS OUT LIKE ON THE THINGS AND LIKE IF THIS WAS LIKE A THING WHERE WE WERE LIKE, HEY, IN OUR COMMUNITY WE PARK AND THEN WE TRICK OR TREAT AND THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT LIKE THE POLICE COULD MAYBE EVEN THEN SAY LIKE, HEY, WE'RE PARKING.
THE ISSUE IS THOSE PEOPLE ARE FROM COMING, THEY'RE COMING TO NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF THERE WERE YARD SIGNS, LIKE ALL DOWN, LIKE MY SCOTTSDALE, OUR SCOTTDALE IS THE ENTRANCE POINT FOR LIKE, WE GET SO MUCH TRAFFIC CAR-WISE MM-HMM.
LIKE TONS OF KIDS WHO ARE GETTING OUT OF CARS.
UH, AND THEY, THEY'LL JUMP OUT AT MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE AND THEN THEY JUMP LIKE, AND THEN THEY WALK TO MY HOUSE, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
AND THEN THEY JUMP BACK IN THEIR CAR AND DRIVE THE NEXT FEW HOUSES AND THEN THEY JUMP OUT AGAIN.
UM, ANYWAY, SO IT WOULD BE COOL IF WE COULD HAVE JUST LIKE YARD SIGNS THAT PEOPLE COULD PUT IN THEIR YARDS.
LIKE AT LIKE THE COMMUNITY CENTER IT SHOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE PARK AND THEN TRICK OR TREAT.
I WAS ALSO THINKING THIS COULD BE A REALLY COOL EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT FOR EAGLE SCOUTS TO LIKE PARTICIPATE AND HELP.
SCOUTS ARE TYPICALLY IT HAS TO BE, UM, A PROJECT THAT'S SUSTAINABLE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YES, YES, YES.
I MEAN THE BOY SCOUTS CAN HELP BUT NOT, IT WOULDN'T TECHNICALLY YES.
OR LIKE NHS LIKE THEY HAVE TO GET VOLUNTEER HOURS, RIGHT? LIKE THERE ARE LOTS OF LIKE HIGH SCHOOL OPPORTUNITIES WHERE KIDS HAVE TO GET VOLUNTEER HOURS AND YOU COULD SAY LIKE, YOU COULD COME STAND AT THESE, YOU COULD GO ATTEND THIS CHIEF POLICE TRAINING AND HOW TO STAND THERE.
AND MS. RITA COULD PARTICIPATE BECAUSE SHE'S THE MOST AMAZING CROSSWALK PERSON EVER.
BUT DOES A PARK AND TRICK OR TREAT, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK CAMPAIGN FROM THE CITY WOULD BE GREAT.
AND AND YOU JUST BRING THOSE SIGNS UP.
AND THIS WAS, UH, I HAVE ONE COMMENT.
UH, UH, AND IT'S, IT'S ONE I HAD LAST YEAR TOO.
KIDS ARE STARTING TO START EARLIER.
UM, SO FROM FIVE 30 TO NINE 30, I DIDN'T SIT DOWN ONCE.
UH, AND KIDS STARTED ABOUT FIVE O'CLOCK.
I'D SAY THERE WERE ALMOST CLOSE TO A THOUSAND BY THE TIME I FIRST SAW AN OFFICER OUT THERE.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE DISCUSSED AS FAR AS HOURS.
IF, IF THERE COULD AT LEAST BE A COUPLE.
AGAIN, I CAN STAGGER DOWN AND IT WAS GONNA CREATE LESS ON THE BACK END.
UH, THE PROBLEM I THINK HAPPENED THIS LAST YEAR IS THERE WAS AN ASTROS GAME THAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN IF WE REMEMBER IT GOT CANCELED.
PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO GET BACK SO THEY COULD WATCH THE GAME.
UH, AND I DON'T PLAN AROUND BASEBALL GAMES.
I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU CUZ I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA HAPPEN OR NOT.
I DO IT BASED ON, I DO IT BASED ON THE TRAFFIC THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST.
SO, UH, IF Y'ALL CHOOSE A TIME THAT YOU WANT TO SAY, HEY, HALLOWEEN STARTS NOW, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK AROUND THAT.
I MEAN, FIRST PEOPLE WE HAD WERE AT FIVES.
THEY, THEY PARK IN THE GRAVEL PARKING LOT.
COME TO OUR HOUSE, THEN GO STRAIGHT TO SCOTTSDALE.
UH, SO BY, SO ARE WE GONNA HAVE IT FROM FIVE TO NINE OR ARE WE GONNA SAY FIVE TO 10 AGAIN? IT'S A STAFFING ISSUE FOR ME.
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE IT, IT COULD BE AT LEAST A COUP SOME PRESENCE CUZ I DIDN'T, WELL THERE WAS PRESENCES.
WE HAD REGULAR PATROL OUT DURING THAT TIME.
SO, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BEEFING UP AND I GO BACK TO AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING IS I'VE BEEFED UP EVERY YEAR, BUT IS THE, WHEN WE START EARLIER, THAT'S GONNA AFFECT US ON THE BACK END.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE AS MANY OFFICERS BACK ON THE BACK END.
I WILL SAY THERE WERE AT THE VERY END, THERE WERE A LOT OF OFFICERS AND NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ANYMORE.
SO I THINK IF MAYBE A COUPLE PEELED OFF EARLY, IT
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SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS STILL A GOOD AMOUNT.WELL AGAIN, THEY WERE RESPONDING TO WHERE THEY WORKED.
AGAIN, WE, THAT'S ONE THE WRAP UP COMES IN.
BUT UH, IF I PULL 'EM OFF EARLIER, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE 'EM WHEN WE HAVE THE MOST PEOPLE OUT.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LESS AT FIVE 30 THAN YOU ARE AT SIX 30.
BUT THERE'S FIVE 30 NEXT STARTING TO HAPPEN.
THAT'S WHEN WE START SEEING IT.
SO YEAH, I KNOW THERE'S SOME OUT, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA, I CAN ADJUST DOWN IF YOU WANT TO SAY A TON, BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE 'EM ON THE BACK END.
SO WHAT DO YOU FEEL IS THE BEST WAY FOR US TO, TO PUT THIS TOGETHER? WELL, I'M GONNA MOVE WE TABLE THE CONVERSATION.
APPOINT KURT IS THE COMMITTEE CHAIR.
OBTAIN SOME CITIZENS THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED AND START LOOKING AT A, A PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR.
I COME UP WITH SOME, SOME OF THESE IDEAS AND EMPLOY ON 'EM.
WE EXPECT, AND I LIKE, WE EXPECT A REPORT BY THE DECEMBER MEETING
I, I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT TASK AND AND WE DO APPRECIATE IT.
WELL, THE THING ABOUT IT, KURT, IS I, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT THERE ARE POLICE OUT ON THE STREETS AT LEAST BY SIX O'CLOCK.
WELL DOES OUR EXTRA PERSONNEL THAT WE DO HAVE REGULAR PATROL THAT WERE OUT CONSTANTLY.
I MEAN, WE HAVE OUR REGULAR PATROL IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, WHICH IS THE, ONE OF THE BUSIEST CORNERS.
SO THAT WAS, EXCEPT FOR SCOTTSDALE, THEY WERE ALL PART, THEY ALL WALKED TO SCOTTSDALE FROM OUR HOUSE THE BEST.
OKAY, SO WE WANT MAKE SURE THAT YOUR HOUSE GETS HIT FIRST.
THAT MEANING, THAT'S THE DIFFICULTY.
UM, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN COVER.
AND I WILL SAY THIS, I WISH WE COULD BE EVERYWHERE AT ONE TIME.
AND THE TRICK OR TREATERS AREN'T EVERYWHERE AT ONE TIME? NO, WE, WE ACTUALLY FOLLOW THE MIGRATION AND THAT SCHOOL PARKING LOT.
THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, NO VOTE.
OH, FOR WHAT? WE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.
I'LL OH, FOR THE COMMITTEE APPOINTING KURT, CHAIRMAN OF OUR ED HOSPITAL.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT.
ARE WE STILL GONNA HAVE MORE CERT CLASSES SO THAT WE COULD BRING MORE PEOPLE TO OUR WE NEED TO TALK TO CERT.
TAKE ME ALL IN FAVOR? I AND YOU OPPOSED? THIS IS BECOMING AN EVENT THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
RIGHT? I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE MOVING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
HE WANTS TO MOTION BEFORE WE IF INTERRUPTED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? AND I DO BY THAT BAKER WOMAN.
ANY OPPOS? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
ANY FURTHER AUDIENCE COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, YOU GET TO COME SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES.
ANYBODY? OKAY, ITEM G, UNLESS WE HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS, WE ARE ADJOURNED.