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[Special City Council Meeting]

[00:00:06]

I HAVE SIX O'CLOCK.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE, UH, 20, 20 TO 2023 TAX RATE, ANY AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO THAT QUESTION OR COMMENTS TO COUNCIL ARE FREE TO DO SO NOW PLEASE GO UP TO THE MIC AND GIVE US YOUR NAME.

NOT THAT MIC MICROPHONE, HAVE A SAY A ADDRESS AND A NAME, AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO HEAR YOU.

YES, I PUSHED THE BUTTON.

HERE WE GO.

TERRY HANDLING 1, 2, 2 0 3 AUSTIN DRIVE COMMENT HAS TO DO WITH THE TAX RATE.

AND BASED ON THE NOTICE THAT YOU PUBLISH HERE, PROPOSING A TAX WRITE OF 1, 8 0 6, OH, ALL PER A HUNDRED DOLLARS BY YOUR , WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO AN 8% INCREASED OVER THE, THE AMOUNT OF TAXES YOU'RE PAYING ON THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

THAT'S AN 8% INCREASE.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE, I'D HEARD THAT YOU WERE A PROPOSAL, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND DOES THE BUDGET REFLECT THE FULL 8% INCREASE? I JUST GOT A COPY OF IT.

AND SO YOU HAVE BUDGETED NOT INCLUDING, UH, MONEY FOR A ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, RIGHT? SO TERRY, THE REGULAR BUDGET IS BALANCED AT THE THREE-AND-A-HALF PERCENT, THE DELTA BETWEEN THE THREE AND A HALF AND THE EIGHT IS PUTTING STRICTLY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IT'S GOING TO GO TO ROADS, REPAIR SIDEWALKS, IT'S BEING PUT IN A SPECIAL LINE ITEM, WHICH REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH M AND O HAS TO DO WITH MORE LIKE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE BUDGET FOR THE COMING YEAR, UH, IS PROPOSED THAT A THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE, WHICH COVERS M AND O CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND THE DELTA IS CAPITAL AND HOW MUCH DOLLAR VALUE DOES IS ESTIMATED THAT THAT ADDITIONAL FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT REPRESENTS 286,000 2 86 TO GO TOWARDS, UH, THE, UH, THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

OKAY.

CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THE CURRENT ROAD IMPROVEMENT TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW ON DORRANCE, I'M SORRY.

THE CURRENT PROJECT PROJECT ON DORRANCE BETWEEN, UH, WHAT OXFORD AND KIRKWOOD AND KIRKWOOD IS, UH, EXCEEDED A MILLION DOLLARS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND THAT'S APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND FEET, CORRECT.

OKAY.

NOW, IF WE USE THAT SAME APPROACH IN THE COMING YEARS, THE MIKE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS WE NEED, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO EXCEED 100 YEARS IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE CITY.

IS THAT THE RIGHT APPROACH? WHEN WE DO LITTLE BITTY BITS AND PIECES EACH YEAR, IT JACKS UP OUR ACTUAL COST.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION, WHEN YOU DO IT A LITTLE BITTY PIECE AT A TIME, RATHER THAN DOING MOST OF IT AT ONE TIME, OR AT LEAST BIG CHUNKS, AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO GO FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE REBUILD IN THE CITY IS BONDS.

AND IT NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED TO THE CITIZENS AND THE CITY OF MOTTO'S PLACE.

AND TO SEE IF THEY THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT PLACE TO GO, WE ALL KNOW WE NEED THE IMPROVEMENTS.

WE ALL KNOW WE GOT TO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO WE'VE GOT TO UPGRADE THEM AND PREVENT IT FROM TEARING, TEARING DOWN AND FALLING APART.

BUT WE CAN'T GET THERE UNDER THE APPARENT ON THE CURRENT

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PROCESS.

AND Y'ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M SURE YOU DO.

YOU'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ON IT.

SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, HOW DO I GET, WHERE I NEED TO GO AND KEEP THE CITY, YOU KNOW, UP THERE AT, UH, ONE OF THE BEST LITTLE COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WE HAVE LOOKED AT A TERRY, I WANT TO JUMP IN HERE.

SO THE BOND CAPACITY OF THE CITY IS BETWEEN 15 AND $20 MILLION.

SO THAT IS THE MOST WE COULD BORROW.

UM, THE TAX RATE ON THAT IS PROBABLY 20 CENTS PER HUNDRED, JUST TO PAY THAT BACK OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

SO WHAT WE WOULD TAKE TO THE VOTERS IS GIVE US 15 MILLION TO FIX SECTION ONE.

IT'S GOING TO COST YOU 20 CENTS ON YOUR TRACK'S RATE FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

AND THEN WE'LL START TALKING TO YOU ABOUT SECTION TWO.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOATERS WOULD ACTUALLY GO FOR THAT.

WELL, IF THE VOTERS UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW WITH A LITTLE BITTY PIECEMEAL, YOU NEVER GOING TO GET THERE.

WELL, WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS ONCE WE GET THIS FIRST PIECE OF DARREN'S DONE, IT WILL GENERATE MORE INTEREST AND PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY SUPPORT BUMPING THAT TAX RATE IN ORDER TO DO THE WORK.

SO, YEAH, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND SOMEHOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THERE AND IT MIGHT TAKE MORE THAN ONE PROPOSITION ON THE, YOU KNOW, PRESENTED TO THE VOTE, YOU KNOW, MANTA COME AT IT EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS TO GET THERE.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, WE CAN'T BORROW THAT MUCH MONEY NOW.

NO I'M SAYING IF IT'S FAILED THE FIRST YEAR, YOU COME BACK THE NEXT YEAR AND YOU KEEP, YOU KNOW, KEEP ON THE, UNDERSTAND THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT YOU'VE GOT THE FLOAT, A BOND IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, BECAUSE WITH THE TIME YOU GET IT DONE ON THE CURRENT, UH, SCENARIO, UH, Y'ALL, YOU'LL BE REWORKING.

IT WAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

OF COURSE, NONE OF US WILL BE HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S WITHIN 50 OR 60 YEARS, HE GOT HER TO START REDOING WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE AND, AND THE NUMBER OF MILES IN THE CITY AND THE CURRENT, RIGHT.

IT'D TAKE YOU A MINIMUM OF A HUNDRED YEARS TO GET THERE.

SO THIS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT AND YOU'VE GOT TO SOMEHOW BITE THE BULLET AND KEEP TRYING TO GET THE MONEY NEEDED.

NOW I AGREE.

AND I'M WORKING AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL ALREADY.

I'M TALKING TO THE SJC AND SOME, SOME REPRESENTATIVES, IF WE COULD POSSIBLY GET SOME FEDERAL OR STATE MONEY FOR SMALL CITY INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THAT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.

AND YOU'VE ALREADY GONE DOWN THAT ROAD AND KNOW, BUT ALL WE COULD DO IS KEEP TALKING MORE THAN A COUNT ON YOU AND I'LL KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE, ONCE WE GET GOING, TERRY, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME INNER STRUCTURE, MOBILITY BONDS, BUT IN THE INTERIM, WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT.

NIKKI GOT SOME INTERESTING FIGURES THERE.

SO WE CALL IT AN ALLEY.

OOP, UM, MR. HENLEY, WE, I THINK YOU, AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AND, UM, I'VE GOT SOME INFORMATION HERE THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OLD, A LITTLE BIT DATED, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING AND I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT TO SHARE.

UM, SO THIS IS ABOUT TWO YEARS OLD, UM, BUT IT'S STILL A GOOD BALLPARK IDEA OF WHAT, UH, WHAT IT WOULD DO TO THE TAX RATE BASED ON HOW MUCH WE'D WANT TO BORROW.

UH, PART OF THE THING THAT COUNCIL HAS TO LOOK AT WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE BORROWING MONEY IS ESSENTIALLY THE NET TAXABLE VALUE ON THE GROUND OF THE ENTIRE CITY.

UM, DEPENDING ON THE RATE, MEADOWS PLACE IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN A PENNY ON THE RIGHT WOULD BE IN SAY SUGAR LAND, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, HERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A NET TAXABLE ASSESSED TOTAL OF SOMEWHERE ON THE ORDER OF ABOUT 450 MILLION.

UM, THIS, UH, SHEET THAT OUR BOND COUNCIL GAVE US A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, HAD A NET TAXABLE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT, BUT THIS IS STILL A GOOD BALLPARK IDEA.

SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, LET'S SAY, UH, BORROWING $5 MILLION TO DO WHAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE A FEW BLOCKS OF ROADWAY, UM, IF YOU WERE TO BORROW THAT AND HAVE TO PAY IT BACK OVER 20 YEARS AT ABOUT 2%, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 8 CENTS ON YOUR TAX RATE OVER 20 YEARS.

WELL, OTHER ALTERNATIVES LOOKED AT IT PAINTED BY QUICKER THAN THE 20 YEARS, MAYBE 10 YEARS.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT WOULD ALSO JACK YOUR RATE UP AND IT MIGHT BE JACKING IT UP SO MUCH THAT WE COULDN'T LEGALLY DO IT.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, I'VE ALWAYS TOLD COUNSEL THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT RAISING THE RATE BASED ON A BOND ELECTION, YOU CAN PROBABLY DO THAT ONCE.

UM, BUT IF YOU BORROW ENOUGH TO GET ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT DONE, YOU'RE GOING TO

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BE RAISING THE RATES SO MUCH THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE APPROACHING 90 CENTS ON YOUR TAX RATE AT SOME POINT, AND GOING OUT FOR ANOTHER BOND WHEN YOUR TAX RATE IS CLOSE TO 90 CENTS IS GOING TO BE A TALL ORDER.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY SORT OF A, IT'S A, ONE-SHOT KIND OF A DEAL.

UM, THE VALUE ON THE GROUND JUST DOESN'T SUPPORT US, BORROWING ENOUGH MONEY IN ORDER TO DO ANY SIGNIFICANT WORK IN TOWN, UM, IN ORDER TO GET VERY LARGE STRETCHES OF ROAD DOT, UM, I MEAN A $10 MILLION BOND, UH, TWO YEARS AGO TO GO OUT AND BORROW $10 MILLION OVER 20 YEARS AT ABOUT 2%, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALMOST 16 CENTS ON YOUR TAX RATE.

THAT'S A CONSIDERABLE TOP.

WELL, ALL I'M SAYING IS WE NEED TO BE EXPLORING AND TRYING TO DO ALL OF THE ABOVE.

AND AT SOME POINT A BOND IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE ISSUED IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

I JUST THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BALANCING ACT.

THERE'S NO CALL.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

YEAH.

SO TERRY, IN ORDER FOR US TO RAISE A MILLION DOLLARS, THAT'S GOING TO BE ROUGHLY 23 CENTS ON THE TAX RATE.

UM, SO NEXT YEAR, IF YOU CAN GENERATE THE SUPPORT TO GO FROM 0.8 TO A DOLLAR THREE ON THE TAX RATE, AND YOU THINK YOU CAN GET THE CITIZENS TO GO FOR THAT, I THINK COUNCIL WOULD HAPPILY INCREASE THE RIGHT WEIRD IMPROVING INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT MILLION DOLLARS COULD GO TOWARDS STRAIGHT PROJECTS ONCE A YEAR, OR IT COULD BE TOWARDS A BOND IF YOU KEEP THE, THE TAX RATE FOR AMPHENOL AT THREE OR THREE AND A HALF PERCENT AND NOT INCREASE IT MORE THAN THAT.

AND THE BALANCE OF THAT GOES TO A FUND FOR INFRASTRUCTURE REBUILD.

THEN YOUR BEST APPROACH IS TO NOT GO AT AN 8% INCREASE, BUT GO TO 12 OR 15% INCREASE AND PUT NO MORE MONEY IN IT.

AND THAT WAY YOU'LL GET THERE QUICKER.

SO THOSE DISCUSSIONS I'M ASSUMING YOU'VE HAD AND YOUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS, AND THAT SHOULD BE BEING LOOKED AT RIGHT NOW.

I'M ASSUMING AS BEN AND YOU'RE TALKING TO SOMEBODY WOULD LOVE TO GO TO 20.

OKAY.

SO FOR THE SECOND FULL YEAR, UM, THIS CITY HAS A 15 YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, A CIP, AND IT LAYS OUT NOT ONLY TIMEFRAMES, BUT DOLLAR FIGURES TO GO THROUGH THOSE TIMEFRAMES.

AND I THINK STAFF HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF SHOWING COUNCIL.

IN FACT, COUNCIL ADOPTS THAT EVERY YEAR AND EVERY YEAR WE REVISIT IT AND WE LOOK AT, IS THIS TIMEFRAME STILL REALISTIC? ARE THESE DOLLAR FIELDS FIGURES? AND BEFORE THE STATE LEGISLATURE STARTS LOOKING AT THIS AND CHANGING WHAT WE CAN DO, WE NEED TO ACCUMULATE AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE TO WORK ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE TELLING, MAN, AND YOU'RE MAINTAINING AN MNO OF NO MORE THAN THREE OR THREE AND A HALF PERCENT, THE BALANCE GOES INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE FUND.

YOU NEED TO LOOK AT, UH, YOU KNOW, 15 OR 20% INCREASE THIS YEAR AND EVERY YEAR THEREAFTER UNTIL YOU GET SOME FLACK.

OKAY.

YEAH.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY, UM, THE CITY RUNS ON ABOUT A 6.3 MILLION GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

UH, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT PROBABLY IN THE CITY'S HISTORY, UH, WHERE YOU'VE PUT AWAY, UH, WHAT'S ROUGHLY AMOUNTS TO ABOUT 5% OF THAT BUDGET JUST FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, JUST FOR THIS, BY THE WAY IS THE FIRST PART OF THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS.

OKAY.

MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

THAT'S GOOD.

OKAY.

AND TERRY, TRUST ME.

UM, I THINK THAT CONVERSATION THAT WE HELD MULTIPLE TIMES DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS CAUSED EVERYBODY SOME GREASE AND SMASHED THE P THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THAT PEOPLE IN SECTION FOUR FIGURED THEY'LL PROBABLY BE DEAD BEFORE WE GET THROUGH PAYING FOR, OR WE GET OVER THERE.

CAUSE THAT'S THE NEWER SECTION AND IT'S ONLY 30 YEARS OLD.

SO THAT'S TRUE.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

TERRY'S TO DO, PAYS TO GO.

AND YOU SHOULD REMEMBER THE FACT THAT WHEN IT CRATERED IN WHAT TOOK 2008 YEP.

ONCE ONE OF THE BIG NUTS THAT WE HAD TO PAY AND HAD NO, NO WAY OUT WAS THE DEBT ON OUR BOND, CORRECT.

HAD TO PAY THAT WE'RE SITTING THERE, AARON BACK IN PARKS, PAIRING BACK IN PUBLIC, WORKS, PAIRING BACK AND POLICE, BUT WE CAN'T PAY HER BACK IN THAT.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG INCENTIVES HERE IS WE DON'T WANT TO BE CAUGHT, LOCKED INTO A DEBT THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT SHOULD THE ECONOMY TANK.

RIGHT.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE, THAT'S ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT WEIGHED IN THE PAY AS YOU GO PROCESS.

WELL, YEAH.

IDEALLY YOU WILL PAY AS YOU GO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME TO GET WHERE YOU NEED TO GO, THAT'S GOING TO GET PART OF IT.

IT WON'T GET ALL OF IT.

WELL THAT'S YEAH.

YOU CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT PAY AS YOU GO.

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NO, AND YOU CAN'T, I CAN'T DO A IT WELL, YOU CAN DO A BOMB TO SOME DEGREE A LITTLE BIT.

YEAH.

WELL, I WANT THAT LITTLE BIT AND BEING DONE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

OKAY.

IF NOT, I'M NOT BRINGING IT UP.

SO THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT WOULD BE, WELL, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT IT OBJECTIVELY NOW.

WELL, THERE'S SECTION ONE, SECTION TWO AND SO ON AND UNDERSTAND, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO AT THE VOTERS IS I WANT MY STREET FIXED.

I'M NOT VOTING TO FIX THAT STREET OVER THERE, NOT IF I'M GOING TO BE DEAD BEFORE IT'S PAID OFF.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE TARGET IS DORRANCE AND THEN MOVE ON TO EITHER MULHOLLAND OR MONOSITO HIT THE ROADS THAT EVERYBODY USES AND THEN START SPREADING OFF FROM THERE.

UM, I THINK THE OTHER THING IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

AND I THINK KURT BROUGHT THIS UP AT A MEETING LAST FRIDAY IS THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE OTHER THAN HODEL REPLACEMENT.

AND THAT WOULD BE DOING WATER LINES, SEWER LINES, SEWER TESTS, ROD CAME TO US WITH AN UPDATED CIP.

AND SO SOME OF THOSE WATER RATE INCREASES, SOME THINGS CAN'T BE LEFT UNTIL YOU GET TO IT.

THAT'S TRUE.

SOME OF THAT, YEAH.

SOME OF THAT IS PRECIPITATED ON THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, I THINK SINCE ROD'S BEEN HERE AND MAYBE IT'S JUST BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT, THERE IS A PLAN NOW A CIP PLAN THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS AT BOTH THE LONG-TERM THINGS THAT SHOULD BE DONE AND THE IMMEDIATE TERM THINGS THAT ARE JUST PROBLEMS WAITING TO HAPPEN.

AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOME ARPA MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL, UH, PART WE'VE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL MOBILITY, SOME BOND MONEY FROM THE COUNTY.

WE'RE ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THINGS FINALLY THAT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE ADDRESSED YEARS AGO, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE BEGINNING.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT THAT PART OF THE REASON WE STOPPED AT EIGHT WAS THAT WE COULD MAKE THAT DECISION AROUND THE ELECTRUM HERE.

WE, WE COULD MAKE THAT DECISION.

IF WE WOULD GO ABOUT THAT, THEN IT BECOMES A VOTER ISSUE RIGHT HERE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION ABOVE 8%, UH, UNLESS THE, THE, UH, VOTER SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

THAT'S AND I'M ABOUT THE ONLY ONES PLAYING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, GO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

YEAH.

AND THAT MAY BE, THAT MAY BE THE TONE WE TAKE NEXT YEAR.

THIS YEAR, WE LOOKED AT IT AND SAID WITH INFLATION, THE WAY IT'S GOING AND WHAT PEOPLE ALREADY GOING TO BE SEEING SOME OTHER INCREASES THAT MAYBE 8% IS A GOOD, IS A GOOD NUMBER TO START WITH.

OKAY.

LET'S, LET'S PUT THE MONEY IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

LET'S HEAR MARKET.

SO IT DOESN'T GET SPENT ON OTHER STUFF.

IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS LONG AS IT'S EARMARKED.

AND AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS THEIR ATTORNEY SAYS, YES, YOU CAN DO THAT.

AS GENERAL LAW CITIES CAN DO THAT AND USE IT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND NOT JUST M AND O AND AS LONG AS IT'S BEEN DEFINED, YOU SHOULD BE OKAY, WHICH IS GOOD.

JUST SITTING IN THERE.

OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR HAS PUT A LITTLE SLOT THERE WITH THE NAME BESIDE IT, AND IT'S DESIGNATED THERE.

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

YEAH.

WHICH WE HAD THE KIND OF MONEY ON THE GROUND THAT SUGARLAND DID OR SHENANDOAH, BUT WE DON'T.

WELL, MOUNT BELLEVUE IS THE ONE YOU LOOKING AT THE MONEY THEY GOT.

THAT'D BE ANOTHER ONE.

TERRY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL? I'M MIKE BEZNER AT 1, 1 8, 4, 2 MULHOLLAND DRIVE SINCE 1975.

UH, I WANT TO ADDRESS AUTUMN NUMBER 0 4 0 5 6 3 5 0 0 STREET REPAIR.

MY, WHAT ARE YOU DISCUSSING? STRAIGHT REPAIR IS $50,000 FOR LAST YEAR IN $50,000 OR THIS YEAR THERE'S NO INCREASE.

THERE'S NO INCREASE.

FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS ABOUT THE TAX RATE.

MIKE, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT THE TAX RATE.

CAN YOU HOLD OFF A LITTLE BIT UNTIL THE CLOSEST PUBLIC HEARING OUT? YEAH.

WELL YOU MEAN, YOU MEAN AFTER SIX 30? YUP.

WELL, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICKLY IS THAT THERE'S NO INCREASE FOR ROAD REPAIR OR SIDEWALK REPAIR IN THIS BUDGET.

THAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO DO LESS ROAD REPAIR AND LESS SIDEWALK REPAIR THIS YEAR THAN YOU DID LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF THEIR RATE INFLATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I WOULDN'T COMMENTS ARE DULY NOTED.

MIKE.

NOW YOU'D LIKE TO COME BACK AND BRING IT UP WHEN WE DISCUSS THAT ITEM.

WE'D LOVE TO DO THAT WITH YOU.

WELL, I DON'T MIND PAYING FOR EXTRA TAXES

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IF I CAN SEE SOMETHING BEING DONE ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND DO AWAY WITH SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE MEADOWS.

YEAH.

I KNOW.

I CARE CONDITION.

WE CAN CUT THAT OUT.

UH, NO, I'M, I'M NOT FAR REMOVED FROM THAT.

I GREW UP IN AIR MINE, AND EVERYBODY WENT NUTS WHEN THEY LAID THAT DOWN AND EVERYBODY WAS SURE GLAD FOR 15 YEARS.

CAUSE IT WAS NICE AND QUIET AND SMOOTH.

SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO CONVINCE ME ANYONE ELSE.

SO I THINK WITH THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD FOLKS, THERE'S NOBODY ELSE HERE.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO DO.

YOU CAN JUST LEAVE IT OPEN.

WE'LL CLOSE IT AT SIX 30.

WAIT.

SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK TILL WE GET BACK, ANYBODY COMES UP.

WE'LL HOLLER AT YOU.

NO, I WANT TO SAY, I THOUGHT SHE DID A GREAT JOB OF MINGLING WITH THE CROWD DURING THAT DANCE DOFF OUT AT THE, UH, IN, IN THE CUL-DE-SAC THERE LOOKS LIKE THAT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE DONE THAT, BUT THANK YOU FOR DOING IT.

IT WAS A GREAT ADDITION OF OUR POLICE FORCE OUT WITH OUR PUBLIC OTHERS.

GREAT.

I DIDN'T SEE ASSISTANT CHIEF ASHTON OUT THERE THOUGH.

DID I MISS YOUR, DID I, DID I JUST MISS YOU? MR. MERRICK? I'M A BEHIND THE SCENES GUY.

I KNOW WHERE TO BE.

YEAH.

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HI, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE, THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING OF THE PUBLIC HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THAT MOVES US UP TO TWO MINUTES BEFORE WE OPEN THE NEXT.