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[Public Hearing]
MEMBERS, AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.COULD YOU TAKE YOUR SEAT PRETTY PLEASED.
UH, JOSEPH EARNEST FROM SPRINGVILLE SPRINGVILLE, UTAH.
I LEFT THE SNOW THIS MORNING AND I'M HAPPY.
VERY, VERY HAPPY TO BE A MEADOWS PLACE NOW AND NOT IN THE SNOW, UM, TODAY.
UM, I'M THE APPLICANT FOR THE QUICK QUACK, THE POTENTIAL QUICK QUIET CARWASH OFF OF KIRK WOOD ROAD AND AIRPORT BOULEVARD.
UM, I PREPARE PREPARED A LITTLE PRESENTATION.
I WILL GO THROUGH THEM QUICKLY, BUT THE MOST PART, I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT THE QUICK QUIET CARWASH IS AND WHAT IT ISN'T.
UM, ONE THING THAT I FEEL LIKE QUICK QUACK HAS DONE, THERE'S ABOUT 140, OH, ACTUALLY THE 150, JUST OVER 150 OPEN LOCATIONS.
AND IT STARTED IN SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA.
AND OVER THE YEARS, THEY'VE IMPOSED A LOT OF REGULATIONS ON THEMSELVES.
AND I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT THEY MEET THE TOUGHEST CUP, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR SUP STANDARDS ON THEIR OWN.
SO AS I GO THROUGH IT, I'LL EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT THOSE ARE TYPICALLY IN A CARWASH, EVEN A QUICK QUIET CARWASH, THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT LIGHTING, SOUND, TRAFFIC, THINGS OF THOSE NATURES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THOSE AS, AS WE GO THROUGH, THIS IS THE PROPOSED.
THIS WOULD BE A PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
OF COURSE, TODAY YOU'RE JUST CONSIDERING THE SUP, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF A BENEFIT TO THE CITY, THE PLANNING AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO SEE WHAT THE SITE PLAN POTENTIALLY WOULD BE.
AS YOU CONSIDER AN SUP IT'S MORE INFORMATION IS BETTER THAN LESS.
AS YOU CAN SEE FOR THIS CARWASH, THE ENTRANCE IS ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE.
THIS IS, AND JUST AS WE PLACE THIS, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A GROCERY STORE TO THE WEST.
JUST SO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS TO THE SOUTH ACROSS THE STREET IS STARBUCKS.
AND THEN THE SOUTH EAST IS WALGREENS.
JUST SO YOU CAN REALLY PLACE THIS WHERE EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS.
SO THIS IS A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION, SOMETHING ABOUT QUICK QUACK, LITTLE TIDBIT, TIDBIT OF INFORMATION.
IT'S NOT A DESTINATION LOCATION.
SO WE REALLY NEED TO GO WHERE THE TRAFFIC'S ALREADY THERE.
AND THEN WE HOPE TO PULL THE TRAFFIC OFF THE ROAD FOR, FOR A MINUTE OR TWO, WASH THEIR CAR, GIVING THEM THAT GOOD CLEAN CAR FEELING, AND THEN THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY.
AND IT'S REALLY A FUN, IT'S A FUN BUSINESS TO BE PART OF.
SO THE VEHICLE WOULD ENTER FROM THE SOUTHWEST WE HAVE AT THIS LOCATION, WE TEND TO OVER PURCHASE OR OVER LEASE THE SPACE OR THE SITE THAT WE NEED.
AND THE REASON WE DO THAT IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE TRAFFIC ON THE SITE AND NEVER HAVE ANY SPILLOVER TRAP THAT'S MUSIC TO TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, FOR SURE.
THIS SITE, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE 32 VEHICLES BEFORE THEY EXIT THE TUNNEL.
THAT'S WAY MORE THAN WE'D EVER NEED.
BUT FROM THE SOUTHWEST BOUNDARY, ALL THE WAY TO THE EXIT OF THE TUNNEL CAN BE VEHICLES.
IN THEORY, WE WOULD NEVER HAVE THAT MANY, EVEN IF WE EXCEEDED ALL OF OUR BEST ECONOMIC PROJECTIONS, WE WOULD NEVER HAVE THAT MANY, BUT THAT'S, WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THAT MANY AT ONCE 32 VEHICLES, THREE TO FOUR VEHICLES IN THE TUNNEL AT ONCE AS WELL.
WHEN WE'RE VERY, VERY, VERY BUSY.
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YOU CAN SEE A SHADED PORTION THERE.THAT'S OUR CANOPY, WHERE OUR EMPLOYEE WILL MEET THE CUSTOMER, THE SHADED PORTION TO THE EAST OF THAT TUNNEL.
THAT'S WHERE OUR EMPLOYEES WILL MEET THE CUSTOMER.
WHEN WE'RE VERY BUSY, WE'LL HAVE FOUR TO FIVE VEHICLES STACKED FROM THAT, FROM THAT SPOT BACK ONCE THE, ONCE THE CUSTOMER, THE CITIZEN OF THE CITY ESSENTIALLY GIVES THEIR CAR WASH ORDER.
THEY'LL GO THROUGH THE WASH CAR WILL BE PUT IN NEUTRAL, AND THEN IT'LL GET PULLED THROUGH THE WASH IN THE WASH ITSELF.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH PAINSTAKING EFFORTS TO BE A LEADER IN CONSERVING WATER.
AGAIN, THE QUICK QUACK WAS ORIGINATED IN SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA, AND THEY'VE DEVELOPED A SYSTEM OF THREE 1500 GALLON RECLAIMED TANKS THAT ARE UNDER THE TUNNEL AND WE'RE RECYCLING PER VEHICLE UP TO 90% OF THE WATER.
WE'RE ALSO DISCHARGING CLEANER WATER INTO THE SEWER, INTO THE, INTO THE STORM DRAIN.
IT'S ALL BEEN GONE THROUGH THE RECLAIMED TANKS.
WHAT THAT NETS IS, IT'S A 26, IT'S A NET 26 GALLONS OF WATER USED PER VEHICLE.
IF YOU WERE TO WASH YOUR CAR IN YOUR DRIVEWAY, YOU'D USE OVER 100 GALLONS OF WATER.
SO IN SOME OF THE CITIES, WHEN THERE'S DROUGHT IN CALIFORNIA, THEY'VE ACTUALLY TOLD THEIR CITIZENS, PLEASE GO TO A QUICK QUIET CARWASH OR ONE LIKE IT, THAT, THAT RECLAIMS THE WATER AND RECYCLES THE WATER.
SO WE TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY.
THE WATER, THE WATER USAGE, THE VEHICLE AFTER THE VEHICLE GOES THROUGH THE WASH, IT'LL COME OUT, CLEAN ON THE EXTERIOR AND THE CUSTOMER CAN THEN CHOOSE TO PULL INTO THE VAC.
ANY ONE OF THESE VACUUM LANES OR THESE VACUUM STALLS, I SHOULD SAY.
AND THEY'RE COVERED WITH A CANOPY AND I'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THAT LATER, BUT IT'S COVERED WITH THE CANOPY.
SO IT'S A COVERED VACUUM STALL, AND THEY CAN, THEY CAN VACUUM OUT THEIR CAR.
THERE'S AN AIR COMPRESSION BLOWER WHERE THEY CAN BLOW OUT THE DUST IN THEIR, IN THEIR EVENTS.
WE FIND THAT HALF OF THE CUSTOMERS JUST LEAVE HALF WILL STAY AND ACTUALLY VACUUM THEIR CAR IN ANY GIVEN ON ANY GIVEN DAY.
THE SITE FLOW ITSELF IS TWO MINUTES AND 40 SECONDS.
IT'S UNDER THREE MINUTES FROM THE TIME YOU ENTER THE SITE TO EXIT.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO NOT VACUUM YOUR CAR, IT'S VERY QUICK.
IN FACT, IT'S MUCH QUICKER THAN EVEN COMPETITORS THAT ARE THE SAME TYPE OF CARWASH, WHERE MUCH FASTER SOMETHING ELSE WE DO.
I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO SOUND ABATEMENT.
WE DON'T, WE, A LOT OF CAR WASHES LIKE OURS WILL HAVE A CENTRAL VACUUM ENGINE, EVERY SINGLE VACUUM STALL.
WE HAVE ONE CENTRAL VACUUM ENGINE THAT POWERS THE ENTIRE ROW AND THAT CENTRAL VACUUM ENGINE.
WE ACTUALLY ENCLOSE IN CMU BLOCK IN THE SAME, THE SAME COLOR AS THE CARWASH TUNNEL TO MAKE IT AESTHETICALLY PLEASING WHILE DAMPENING THE SOUND.
IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE ON THE SITE.
THE LOUDEST PART OF THE CARWASH IS THE EXIT OF THE TUNNEL.
AND YOU CAN SEE, AND IT'S THE MOMENT THE AIR HITS THE CAR.
THAT'S THE LOUDEST POINT OF OUR CARWASH.
THE VACUUMS ARE NOT LOUD AT ALL BECAUSE OF WHAT WE DO IN THAT.
I JUST TOLD YOU ABOUT THE ONCE THE AIR HITS THE CAR, THAT'S THE LOUDEST POINT.
THAT SOUND IS STRATEGICALLY POINTED OUT TOWARDS AIRPORT AIRPORT BOULEVARD.
AND I ASSURE YOU, THE TRUCKS ON AIRPORT BOULEVARD ARE GOING TO BE LOUDER THAN THE CARWASH.
SO WE'VE BEEN AT THIS AWHILE AND WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE NEIGHBORS.
THE WAY THIS IS POSITIONED, THE NEIGHBORS WILL BE VERY PLEASED.
IT WILL NOT BE SOUND INTRUSION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM BE EMPLOYEES THEMSELVES.
THAT'S SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT ABOUT OUR CARWASH.
WE HAVE TWO TO THREE EMPLOYEES SITE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
THEY'RE WEARING WHITE SHIRTS AND TIES, AND THEY'RE JUST HAPPY TO SEE YOU.
AND AS THEY GO, AS THEY WILL GREET YOU, THEY WILL MAINTAIN THE SITE.
OUR HOURS OF OPERATION, WHICH A LOT OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS OR SUP'S WILL LIMIT OUR HOURS OF OPERATION.
YOU CAN SEE IN THERE IT'S 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM IN THE WINTER.
THAT'S ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.
WE CONSIDER WINTER AND 7:00 AM TO 9:00 PM IN THE SUMMER.
SO ALREADY OUR HOURS OF OPERATION COMPARED TO OTHER LIGHT COMMERCIAL USES THAT COULD GO ON THIS CORNER OR ARE VERY LIMITED.
SOME OF THE BENEFITS, LET ME ACTUALLY SHOW YOU NOW GO THROUGH HERE.
THIS IS WHAT THE ELEVATION THAT'S THE BLACK AND WHITE.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL.
THAT'S THE COLOR RENDERING OF THE ELEVATION.
THAT'S, I'VE SPOKEN TO THIS A LITTLE BIT.
I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE, WHAT THE, WHAT THE CARWASH LOOKS LIKE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE CAR WASH WOULD LOOK LIKE.
IF NOT IDENTICAL, WE THINK IT LOOKS GREAT.
SOME OF THE THINGS ABOUT CLICK REC FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S REALLY NEAT.
AND I, I TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST.
THEY REALLY GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S THE NICEST THING FOR ME TO SEE.
SO QUICK BY CARWASH, THEY DO A FUNDRAISER LEADING UP
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TO A GRAND OPENING WHERE THEY'LL FIND SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY OR A FAMILY OR, OR AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS A NEED.AND THE MARC, OUR MARKETER FOR THE AREA WILL ACTUALLY ADVERTISE THAT NEED AND ASK THAT THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY COME TO THE CARWASH THE DAY BEFORE THE GRAND OPENING QUICK, QUICK, THEN DONATES THE CAR WASHES FOR FREE AND ASK THAT THE PEOPLE DONATE TO THAT PERSON OR THAT FAMILY THAT'S A NEED.
AND THEN WE COLLECT THOSE DONATIONS AND THEN QUICK QUACK DOUBLES THOSE DONATIONS AND GIVES IT TO THAT PERSON AT THE GRAND OPENING.
AND I'M TELLING YOU, THAT'S THE NEATEST THING I GET TO BE A PART OF.
I TRY TO GO TO AS MANY AS I CAN.
IT'S REALLY GREAT TO SEE AFTER THE GRAND OPENING AND THE QUICK QUACK GIVES 10 DAYS OF FREE CAR WASHES, WHICH IS REALLY A SIGHT TO SEE.
YOU'LL, WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF CLEAN CARS AND MEADOWS PLACE.
AFTER, AFTER THAT QUICK QUACK LIKES TO GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY PROVIDE THEIR FACILITY FOR LOCAL FUNDRAISERS.
THE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAM CAN STILL DO CAR WASHES AND ACTUALLY USE THE QUICK QUACK CARWASH AND HAVE THE PEOPLE DONATE TO THE FOOTBALL TEAM AS THEY'RE USING THE CARWASH.
THIS IS MY FAVORITE PICTURE, AND I APOLOGIZE, I NEED A BETTER ONE, BUT WE ARE IN THE PARADES, THE LOCAL PARADES, QUICK QUACKS, ALL ABOUT COMMUNITY.
THAT'S VERY COMMUNITY FOCUSED NOW, AND THIS IS TO WRAP IT UP.
I MET WITH THE MAYOR AND NICK AND COURTNEY, AND THEY'RE AWESOME.
AND THEY WERE SO GRACIOUS TO MEET WITH ME AND THE MAYOR PROVIDED SOME GREAT FRANK FEEDBACK ABOUT, HEY, YOUR COMPANY.
IT FITS OUR COMMUNITY, BUT HERE'S, AND THIS IS THE, BUT WE'RE A SQUARE MILE AND THEY'RE SEVEN ACRES OF COMMERCIAL LEFT IN THE CITY.
AND I'M EXTREMELY EMPATHETIC TO THAT.
I SERVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MY CITY, ACTUALLY THAT MY BOSS IS THE MAYOR OF THE CITY NEXT TO MINE.
AND THEY'RE IN A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION.
SO I TALKED TO SOME OF THE QUICK QUACK FOLKS ABOUT THAT SITUATION, AND I'M, I'M CONFIDENT THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY AN ANNUAL FEE IN LIEU OF SALES TAX REVENUE THAT THE CARWASH WOULD BE COLLECTING WOULD HAVE COLLECTED.
CAUSE THEY DON'T, IT'S A SERVICE.
SO THEY DON'T COLLECT SALES TAX.
UM, AND I SENT AN EMAIL OUT TO THAT EFFECT.
UM, BUT I'D ASK THAT IF, IF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE REASON YOU WERE TO DENY THE SUP INSTEAD, PLEASE, PLEASE PICK AN AMOUNT.
SO AT LEAST QUICK QUACK HAS THE OPTION OF PROVIDING.
HOPEFULLY WHAT I, WHAT I THINK IS A WIN-WIN I THINK, I THINK QUICK QUACK WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK, UM, I THINK THEY WOULD LOVE AND, AND WORST CASE SCENARIO, YOU HAVE A LOT, YOU HAVE MORE CLEAN CARS, SO IT'S GOING TO BE, I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD THING OVERALL.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
IF THERE ARE ANY SIGNIFICANT CONCERN, SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC, I'D LOVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THEM.
AND I REALLY THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS APPLICATION.
DON'T HOLD IT AGAINST ME THOUGH.
AND I COME TO HOUSTON, WE'LL COME TO HOUSTON, QUITE A BIT, CORPUS CHRISTI AS WELL, BUT THANK YOU, ME TOO.
I DIDN'T HAVE THE SPEAKER ON FIRST PART, DIDN'T GET RECORDED.
A CARWASH ESTABLISHMENTS ARE OPEN LIGHT, WHICH YOU'VE ADDRESSED AND THEY'RE NOISY MACHINERY THAT REQUIRES CONSTANT MAINTENANCE AND THEY ATTRACT A CONSTANT FLOW OF CARS, IDLING IN LINE AND EMITTING FUMES.
THEY CREATE NOISE, POLLUTION AND RELEASE CHEMICALS.
I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED THE NOISE AS BEST YOU COULD AS WELL.
IT SOUNDS LIKE AN AWFUL BAD D AND BAD IDEA.
AND NO DOUBT PROPERTY PRICES MAY BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED AS WELL, BUT THE LIVES OF THOSE LIVING CLOSE TO THE LOCATION AS IF ALL THIS WERE NOT ENOUGH, THEY PAY NO TAXES AS IT WAS STATED ON MPW H WHICH I THINK IS THE SAME AS A 3G,
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UM, OR G THREE, UH, IT SAYS, KIRKWOOD LOOKS GREAT.THE ROUNDABOUTS HAVE ADDED AESTHETICALLY.
AND IN TERMS OF MOBILITY, WE NOW HAVE A STARBUCKS AND THAT CORNER ACTUALLY LOOKS GREAT.
WHY DESTROY IT? WE ALREADY HAVE A CAR AND A CAR DEALERSHIP TO PAY NO TAXES.
AND CHURCH IS SURROUNDED BY GREEN.
AT LEAST IT LOOKS PLEASANT TO LOOK AT.
WE WOULD LOVE TO FOLLOW THE MEETING ONLINE.
PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW AN INTERACTIVE OPTION WOULD WORK BEST.
UM, BUT WITH ALMA CRON, THEY DIDN'T FEEL SAFE TO COME IN HERE.
AND SO VARIA ROMANO ON BLOOMINGTON HERE IN MEADOWS PLACE, TEXAS.
AND THAT WOULD BE HANDED OVER HERE.
UM, ANYWAY, IS ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FROM THE AUDIENCE? ANY INPUT, GO AHEAD.
AND YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES AND I'M STARTING.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE DOLLAR, STARTING THEM OFF.
MY NAME IS JONATHAN MARK, AND I LIVE AT 1, 1 6 1 8, RICK MEADOWS LANE.
BUT I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF TRACY PARKS WHO LIVES AT 1, 1 6, 2 TO BROOK MEADOWS LANE.
SHE WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, SHE LIVES ON THE CORNER OF BROOK MEADOWS.
SHE LIVES ON THE CORNER OF BROOK MEADOWS AND HAS ASKED ME TO RELAY HER REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THE PERMIT.
MA'AM YOU STILL HAVE THIS DONE STATE YOUR NAME ADDRESS? YES.
I LIVE AT 1 1 7 3 9, BROOKE MEADOW SLANG.
AND MY CONCERN WITH THE CARWASH IS THE EFFECT ON THE, OUR HOME VALUES.
I CREDIT KURT WITH GETTING OUR HOME VALUES UP.
HE STARTED COMING IN AND TELLING PEOPLE YOU NEED TO LIST THESE HOMES FOR MORE.
AND NOW LOOK AT WHAT OUR HOME VALUES ARE.
I'VE DRIVEN THROUGH MANY PLACES IN THE CITY AND MOST CAR WASHES I SEE ARE NOT ADJACENT TO HOMES.
WHEN I SEE A CAR WASH, IT'S USUALLY ON A MAIN STREET.
AND I THINK THAT HAVING THIS CARWASH CLOSE TO OUR PHONES WILL REDUCE OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND WE'LL REDUCE THE QUALITY OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THIS.
I DON'T HAVE FACTS TO SUPPORT THAT, BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE, YOU DON'T GO TO A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEE A CARWASH ON A STREET ADJACENT TO HOMES.
ALRIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT.
MY NAME IS MAYA LABRADOR FROM 11 8 0 7 ANGLEWOOD.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CHANCE TO SPEAK TODAY.
UM, I SPEAK TONIGHT AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND AS A REGISTERED ARCHITECT WITH 11 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN COMMERCIAL PROJECTS HERE IN TEXAS, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE MY OPPOSITION TO THIS SPECIFIC USE AMONG OTHER CONCERNS.
THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS WILL PUT AN INCREASED STRAIN ON OUR CITY WATER SYSTEM, AND IT INCREASES THE POSSIBILITY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL CONTAMINATION IN OUR SMALL CITY, THE POSSIBILITY OF A BLIGHTED BUSINESS OF THIS BUSINESS OF THIS BUILDING TYPE CONSTITUTES A REAL RISK TO THE CITY.
AND IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, THIS SPECIFIC USE DOES NOT CONSTITUTE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE SPECIFIC LOT.
I ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO REJECT THIS APPLICATION.
I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOU BEHIND THE MAST.
UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE WATER ISSUE YOU USING 26 GALLONS PER YEAH, SO I, I FEEL LIKE I'VE SPOKEN TO THE WATER ISSUE, BUT THERE WERE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO.
SO THE LOT ITSELF HAS BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND THE LAST APPLICANT WAS, I BELIEVE FIVE YEARS AGO, IF NOT MORE THAN THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR LAW.
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AND AS FAR AS THE HOME VALUE DECREASE, I JUST DON'T, WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT EXPERIENCE WITH OUR CAR WASHES AND MORE AND MORE IN RETAIL AREAS, ESPECIALLY A PLUS EIGHT TO EIGHT PLUS RETAIL AREAS, A CARWASH LIKE OURS IS A GREAT FIT.UH, IT PULLS TRAFFIC OFF OF THE ALREADY VERY, VERY BUSY ROAD.
I THINK IT WILL BE A BENEFIT AS WELL TO THE GROCER, TO STARBUCKS, TO THE AREA IN GENERAL, I THINK THE RETAIL SALES WILL INCREASE.
UM, I ALSO KNOW THAT FROM THE TAX PERSPECTIVE, AND THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR COMMENTS IS, UM, I BELIEVE THAT OUR PROPERTY VALUE WHEN IT'S AFTER THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE A THREE AND A HALF TO $4 MILLION A NIGHT.
AND THAT WILL BE AN INCREASE IN A BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND AS FAR AS HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, I REALLY THINK AS FAR AS WHAT'S PERMITTED THERE IN THE ZONING, THIS IS IF THIS IS A FANTASTIC, A FANTASTIC USE AND IT'S ACUTE CARWASH THAT WASHES CARS REALLY WELL.
AND NOW THAT THEY'RE, THE, THE COMPANY IS EVEN WILLING TO PAY A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF SALES TAX COLLECTION.
I JUST THINK I'M HOPING YOU AGREE.
IT'S A, IT'S A WIN FOR THE CITY AND IT'S IT'S, I HOPE IT'S A WIN FOR QUICK QUACK REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH AN ENVIRONMENTAL RISK.
I'M THE ONE WHO DOES ALL THE RESEARCH FOR THE ENVIRONMENTALS.
I READ ALL THE PHASE ONE, ALL THE PHASE TWOS.
I TALK TO ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL PEOPLE, UH, WE'VE NEVER BEEN TOLD OR NEVER UNCOVERED THAT THE CARWASH IS A SOURCE OF ENVIRONMENTAL RISK.
ALL OF OUR SOAPS ARE BIODEGRADABLE.
THEY'RE JUST SOAPS OUR CAR WASH MAINTENANCE.
WE USE DAWN DISH SOAP, THE COMMERCIAL VERSION.
IF THAT'S DANGEROUS, THEN YOU, EVERYONE A BETTER MOVE OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.
CAUSE YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T USE YOUR DAWN DISH SOAP ANYMORE.
SO I'M HEARING THE CONCERNS, BUT OVERALL, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S A STRONG BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WORST CASE SCENARIO, THERE'LL BE MORE CLEAN CARS AND THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
THAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO ADDRESS THE WATER AND THAT THE AS WELL, AS FAR AS THE, UH, CONTAMINANTS.
IN MY LETTER AND YOU PULL THAT MIC DOWN A LITTLE CLOSER.
THE ADDRESS IS 1, 1 7 0 3, BROKE METAL SLAIN.
AND MY HOUSE IS IN THE CORNER OF BROOK, MEADOWS AND CARPET.
SO I FEEL LIKE I'M STRONGLY AFFECTED BY THESE BUSINESS BEHIND MY HOUSE.
UM, AND SO I WANT TO VOICE MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE INSTALLATION OF THESE CAR WASH.
NOW YOU HAVE EXPLAINED WHERE THE DRIVEWAY, SORRY, MY MIND AT HOME.
I WAS JUST THINKING, WHERE ARE THE CARS GOING TO COME IN? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO LEAVE? THIS IS A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION.
SO I FORESEE A REAL EXPECTED TRAFFIC PROBLEM THERE, THE NOISE, THE BRIGHT LIGHTS, OF COURSE YOU HAVE A DEAL.
THE BACKYARD OF OUR HOUSES, QUITE A FEW HOUSES ARRIVED THERE.
I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
VERY MUCH AIR QUALITY IMPACT ON HEALTH.
WE HAVE A DAYCARE CENTER, THERE'S CARS DRIVING.
THERE'S GOING TO BE CARS, IDLING, 19.
THAT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA, ALL THOSE CARS TRAVELING THROUGH, I, YOU KNOW, UNACCEPTABLE.
AND THEN OF COURSE THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
UH, I, I UNDERSTAND MARKETING AND YOUR DOC IS REALLY CUTE, BUT I DON'T LIKE YOUR, I DON'T LIKE YOU OVER YOUR, OF YOUR BUSINESS ARE EXCITEDLY IN.
IT'S JUST NOT PRETTY FOR THE ENTRANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I, UH, I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE WATER BECAUSE WHEN YOU WASH YOUR CAR, WHEREVER YOU WASH IT, OF COURSE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE THIRD ENGINE OIL, THREE SEDUCED, THERE IS HEAVY METALS, DIRT, OTHER CHEMICALS THAT ARE POISONOUS TO WILDLIFE.
BUT THE, TO SAY THAT YOU PROCESS THE WATER, MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOES NOT GO TO A STORM DRAINS OR WATERWAYS.
CAN I DO THAT? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION THAT I KNOW THE ANSWER TO, BUT JUST ONCE, GIVE US REAL QUICK.
WHERE DOES THE WATER GO? THE NORMAL IT'S NORMAL PRACTICE OR IS THIS THE WATER SUPPLY? SO WHERE IS THE WATER GOING TO GO TO THE STORE DRAIN OR THE SWITCH OR RIGHT.
AND THERE IS GOING TO BE AN ATTENDANT ON OLD TIMES WHEN THESE FACILITIES
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OPEN, THERE'S GOING TO BE NOTHING HAPPENING AT NIGHT.UH, NOT AFTER 9:00 PM, BUT QUESTION, HE ACTUALLY TURNED OFF ALL THE SITE LIGHTING AUTOMATICALLY.
YOU ONLY NEED THE BUILDING LIGHTING ON FOR THAT SURPRISE.
SO THERE IS NO, UM, UNWANTED VISITORS IN THAT FACILITY ENOUGH.
WELL, I ALSO NOTICED THAT YOUR SEVEN OR EIGHT CAR WASHES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED 1 31 SECONDS.
WELL, SO JUST IN GENERAL, MY FEELING IS THAT THESE WILL AFFECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND THAT THIS IS JUST NOT AN ATTRACTIVE BUSINESS JUST AS WE ENTER, ESPECIALLY SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED THE, YOU KNOW, THE IMPROVEMENT ON CARPET, THE ROUNDABOUTS, THE BEAUTIFUL VEGETATION.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO RUIN EVERYTHING BY PUTTING THESE MONSTER THERE.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD TO IT? THAT THAT WOULD BE WORTH LISTENING TO, OH, GO AHEAD.
CAN'T TELL WE WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR AWHILE.
NO, YOU GET, YOU GET TO, WELL, I GET TO, UH, TERRY HENLINE 1, 2, 2 0 3 AUSTIN.
UH, I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS, DOES PLANNING AND ZONING KNOW WHAT OUR POSITION IS ON EDC.
IF YOU'RE AWARE OF IT, THEN I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT.
UH, WE'VE HAD MANY OPPORTUNITIES ON THAT CORNER SERVICE STATION, CONVENIENCE STORES.
WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT'S ALL BEEN TURNED DOWN BY THE CITY BECAUSE NOISE AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT OVER THE LAST 20 OR 25 YEARS, MY OPINION AS AN INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN, IT IS NOT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FROM A SALES TAX STANDPOINT.
AND WE AS CITIZEN AND METAL SPLICE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF SALES TAX, AND THAT WILL NOT GENERATE ANY.
YES, MAYBE IT WOULD GET SOME THAT WOULD BE COMPARABLE, WHAT THEY THINK IT MIGHT BRING, BUT A VERY, VERY NICE RESTAURANT COULD CERTAINLY BRING IN A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN TAX REVENUE.
IF THIS HAD BEEN PROMOTED CORRECTLY AND I, FOR 1:00 AM NOT OPPOSED, YOU KNOW, I'M OPPOSED TO IT REALLY I'M OPPOSED TO THE CAR WARS.
I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
DO YOU HAVE A MONTHLY FEE WHERE HE GETS YOU CAR WASH AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT TO.
IS IT SIMILAR TO MR. CAR WARS? WHAT'S YOUR ANTICIPATED REVENUE ON A MONTHLY BASIS? HOW MANY CARS ON A MONTHLY BASIS EITHER? I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT'S PULLING TRAFFIC.
I HEAR YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE PRACTICE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC.
SARAH DOESN'T HAVE TO, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LIMIT ONE MINUTE.
UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE WATER, UH, WASTEWATER IS GOING INTO STORM SHORE AS WELL AS SANITATION SEWER.
I MEAN, AND USING THREE 1500 GALLERY BLANKETS AND WATER SEPARATORS, SO I CAN GET YOU THE EXACT, IF I HAD OUR ENGINEER AND DO YOU HAVE OTHER QUICK QUACK CAR WASHES IN TEXAS AND YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH TCEQ AND MEETING THEIR REQUIREMENTS.
THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I GOT THEN.
LIKE YOU CARRY, YOU'RE FINISHED 11 SECONDS EARLY.
WE'RE GOING TO BE WRAPPING UP ANY AUDIENCE COMMENTS RIGHT NOW.
SO THIS LAST ONE, SO, OH, DARN.
THE LAST ONE, THERE MAY BE MORE IMPORTANT IF THERE'S A, SOMEBODY THAT HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION.
WELL, MY OPINION IS NOT DIFFERENT.
I LIVE AT 11 7 0 7 BROOK MEADOWS, WHICH IS RIGHT.
COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? I WAS TALKING TO CITY SECRETARY, JESSE RODRIGUEZ, 11 7 0 7
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BROOK MEADOWS LIVE RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE.UH, I'VE LISTENED TO YOU, UH, SAY ABOUT YOUR SOUND, BUT YOU CANNOT CONTROL THE TYPE OF CUSTOMERS YOU HAVE.
SO, UH, NOISE I, CARS OR CARS.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BACK DRUGS OR ANYTHING, BUT THE STEREOS GOING IN THE, IN THE, UH, VACUUM AREA, THE MEADOWS PLACE IS A, IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE.
BUT WE KNOW WE ARE PRETTY MUCH SURROUNDED BY PLACES THAT HAVE HIGH CRIME AREAS AND PEOPLE THAT I WOULD LIKE NOT TO STOP IN OUR CITIES TO WASH THEIR CAR.
UH, THERE'S A, A SERIOUS DANGER TO CAR WASHES ON THE CORNER THERE NEAR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I FEEL IT WOULD ATTRACT, UH, MORE PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS.
AND YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE PULLING TRAFFIC OFF THE STREETS, BUT ONCE YOU'RE KNOWN, YOU'LL BE HAVING PEOPLE DRIVING HERE THAT NORMALLY WOULDN'T BE ON THE STREETS JUST TO USE YOUR CARWASH.
YOU WANT EXTRA TRAFFIC FOR BUSINESS AND YOU WANT REPEAT, REPEAT CUSTOMERS IN SOME OF YOUR REPEAT CUSTOMERS ARE PROBABLY PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T WANT DRIVING IN THIS AREA.
I KNOW YOURS, ACTUAL BUSINESS IS, IS, UH, YOU'RE TRYING TO SUPPRESS THE NOISE, BUT YOU CANNOT SUPPRESS THE NOISE OF THE PEOPLE THAT USE YOUR CAR WASH.
UH, ALSO I WAS NOT A BIG FAN OF THE ROUNDABOUTS, BUT I THEY'VE GROWN ON ME AND I LIKE THEM.
AND I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY AT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE NOTICED WITH THE, UH, COVID VIRUS IS THE TRAFFIC THAT WAS THERE DURING THE TESTING OF THAT SMALL LITTLE PLACE.
UH, THERE WAS TIMES WHEN WE HAD TO HAVE POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE CONTROLLING TRAFFIC, BECAUSE WHEN YOU COME OFF OF KIRKWOOD COMING TO, UH, WEST AIRPORT, IT'S ONE LANE.
AND IF YOU GET ANY AMOUNT OF LINE OF CHICKENS, YOU'RE GONNA GET TRAFFIC.
SO BOTTOM LINE, AND I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND YOU.
I THINK YOUR SYSTEM, YOUR, YOUR STORE IS, IS CUTE, BUT IN THE ENTRANCE TO OUR CITY, WHICH I THINK THE ROUNDABOUTS HAVE REALLY ADDED BEAUTY TO IT, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SEE COMING INTO MEADOWS, PLACE A STOP.
CHUCK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO, HE HAS HIS COUGAR SHIRT ON, SO HE GETS TO COME UP.
IS THAT THE DEAL? UM, I'LL SHUT MCCLURKIN 1, 1 9, 4, 7 BRIGHTENED LANE.
I WAS KIND OF DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT THERE'S NO SALES TAX GOING TO BE COLLECTED ON THIS CORNER.
I'M ALWAYS IN THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO SEVERAL EQUITY SELL FRESHENERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT HAS OFFERED, AS I UNDERSTAND, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN A SALES TAX IN 30 YEARS FROM THAT CORNER.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I WAS, I WAS CONCERNED AGAIN ABOUT THE WASTEWATER.
THAT'S NOT BEING RECYCLED IS GOING.
YEAH, YOUR CITY STAFF THERE ARE ENGINEERED AND IT IS R IS WHAT OUR BUILDING LOOKED LIKE.
THE PICTURE THAT YOU SHOWED OR WOULD IT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE? AND I KNOW IT'S EYE-POPPING, BUT YOU GOT A, YOU KNOW, A BRICK SHOPPING CENTER BEHIND IT AND A BRICK CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET.
AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF BRICK IN THERE WITH THE YELLOW DUCK MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PLANTABLE, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, AND, AND ALL THAT YOU SAY, ALL THE LIGHTS WILL BE OFF AT NIGHT.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE SHORTER HOURS OF OPERATION.
MOST OF THE PERMITTED USE, OH, NOW GOING TO GET SOMETHING, THERE IS A LOT MORE FIGHT AND NUMBER OF
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AS MUCH WORSE.AND HOW MANY ATTENDANTS WORKED THERE DURING THE DAY WHEN YOU'RE AT OPEN HOURS, THE WASHINGTON MOSTLY AUTOMATED, UM, FIX IT APPROXIMATELY 22.
SO YOU, CAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY GUIDE YOU IN.
AND SO IF THERE'S A, UH, ISSUE ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE PROPERTY, THERE WILL BE SOMEBODY ELSE THERE TO ATTEND TO THAT, UH, LOUD STEREOS OR PEOPLE HANGING AROUND OR ANY 30 SECONDS.
SO THERE'S ALREADY LOST AREAS, 32ND GROCERY STORE THERE.
BUT LIKE OTHER PEOPLE SAID THAT PEOPLE TEND TO TURN THEIR STEREOS ON WHEN THEY'RE BACKING IN THEIR CARS.
I DON'T MEAN OKAY, 10 SECONDS.
IS THERE NO TESTIMONY BEYOND THIS? THEN WE WILL CALL FOR ITEM C, WHICH IS TO ADJOURN THE, A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING FOR BOTH CITY COUNCIL AND FOR OUR, UM, PUBLIC, I MEAN OUR, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UM, P AND Z, UH, Y'ALL ARE GOING TO GO MEET, UH, SORRY, I DIDN'T CLEAN UP THE OTHER MY ROOM, BUT, UH, Y'ALL CAN USE IT, UM, JUST MOVING ON TO ANYTHING ON AND OUT OF THE WAY ON THE TABLE AND HAVE THAT.
AND THEN PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO COME TO A CONCLUSION AND BRING US BACK A REPORT AND THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND THE P AND Z MEETING.
IF YOU WANT TO GO IN THERE, YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND LISTEN TO THE.