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[Special City Council Meeting]
I THOUGHT I HAD IT ON, I MUST'VE BUMPED IT OFF.Y'ALL JUST MISSED A GREAT SPEECH.
UM, ALONG AND COOPERATIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH COMMISSIONER MYERS.
UM, I'VE KNOWN ANDY FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS, I GUESS.
UM, I WAS A HUNDRED POUNDS LIGHTER AND HE HAD HAIR ALDERMAN STAGOLEE AND, UH, ALDERWOMAN BAKER ALSO HAVE A LONG AND A LONG STANDING RELATIONSHIP WITH, UH, THE COMMISSIONER MYERS AND BOTH KNOW MR. .
WELL, UH, AND ROBERT WANT TO THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
UM, SO I'M MOVING ON TO ITEM B, UH, AND BUT BEFORE MOVING TO THE ITEMS LISTED NINE AND B, UH, I WANT TO POINT OUT TO COUNCIL THAT, UH, CITY ADMINISTRATOR, NICK KB, UH, TIA BAKER AND MYSELF MET WITH, UH, ROBERT AND THE COMMISSIONER, UH, LAST WAY FOR WHAT ABOUT AN HOUR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND, UM, IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING AND AN EYE-OPENER FOR ME, I'M NOT INVOLVED TOO MUCH IN COUNTY BUSINESS AND COUNCIL.
I WAS KINDA SURPRISED OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE DISCUSSING ABOUT.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE, UH, JUMP IN THERE AND ASK THEM, UM, AND AT THIS TIME, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, ROBERT, IF I COULD, IS GET YOU TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES, UH, OF THE COUNTY VIA THE, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER MEYER'S INVITING US INTO A, UH, COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICT, UH, WHICH I WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH.
UM, I KEPT HEARING CAD CAD CAD AND FOUND OUT THERE WAS TWO CANS.
UH, SO, BUT IF YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A WORK AND WHAT IT MIGHT MEAN WHEN CITY METIS PLACE.
AND, UH, TO THE COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL HAVING ME TONIGHT.
SO, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS GREAT.
UH, WE WILL BE YOUR, UH, COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE STARTING JANUARY 1ST, 2022.
UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO REPRESENT YOU GUYS AND DO APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME WHEN WE MET, UH, I GUESS LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE, WHENEVER IT WAS.
UM, I DO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH, UH, WITH MS. BAKER AND WITH MR. STAGOLEE, UH, WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER, RICK AND I HAVE WORKED TOGETHER FOR WHAT SEVEN YEARS NOW, AND PROBABLY THE SAME WITH, WITH, UH, WITH TSO DO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH AT LEAST PART OF YOUR, YOUR COUNCIL MAYOR.
AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, WORKING WITH THE REST OF YOU GUYS AND WITH NICK AND DEVELOPING A GREAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OUR OFFICE AND THE CITY, UH, WITH THAT SAID, UH, WHEN WE DID MEET AND, UH, AND THEN TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO, UH, INSIDE THE CITY, UH, WE DID BRING UP COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICTS AND JUST A QUICK HISTORY ON THAT.
UM, OUR OFFICE, WHEN WE WERE LOCATED IN THE KATY FULCHER AREA, UH, WE HAD CREATED, UM, IN MY TIME, I BELIEVE IT WAS FIVE COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICTS, TWO OF THEM BEING, UH, BOTH IN, UH, THE ETJ, NC LIMITS OF FULCHER AND SIMONTON.
UM, I'VE AUTHORED A LOT OF THE LEGISLATION THAT YOU SEE IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, FOR COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICTS.
AND PART OF THE LEGISLATION THAT I HELPED AUTHOR WAS, UH, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 3 87 0 0 3 1, WHICH SPECIFICALLY PERTAINS TO WHAT WE CAN DO INSIDE CITY LIMITS, UH, WITH A COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICT THAT IF YOU NEED ME TO REPEAT IT, IT'S LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 3 87 0.0031.
AND, UH, RICK'S A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR WITH, UH, WITH HOW THIS ALL OPERATES AND HAS HELPED HIS OFFICE.
UH, HIS DEPARTMENT HAS HELPED OUR OFFICE OUT QUITE A BIT WITH, WITH THIS.
SO, UH, HE'S GOT MORE FAMILIARITY THAN JUST ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTY ON, ON HOW THIS, UH, WILL GO VOLUNTEER PROJECT MANAGER.
SO I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND MR. STAGOLEE FOR, UH, FOR, FOR LEADING THIS, UH, WHAT WE CAN DO UNDER THIS CODE.
UM, THE, THE WORDING ALLOWS FOR A DISTRICT TO BE PUT IN A MUNICIPALITY, UH, AS LONG AS THE MUNICIPALITY CONSENTS TO THE INCLUSION.
UH, WE'VE DONE THIS INSIDE THE CITY OF FULCHER.
UH, WE'VE DONE THIS INSIDE, UH, THE CITY OF SIMONTON.
UM, WHAT IT ALLOWS US TO DO IS FUND PROJECTS THAT OR HELP FUND PROJECTS THAT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE FUNDED.
UM, IT DOES NOT TAKE AN ELECTION.
IT JUST SIMPLY TAKES, UH, AN ORDER BY THE GOVERNING BODY, WHICH IN THIS CASE WOULD BE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
AS LONG AS WE DO HAVE THAT CONSENT FROM THE CITY, WE DO NOT NEED TO CREATE ANOTHER COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICT.
WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD SIMPLY TAKE ONE OF THE DISTRICTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND PLACE IT ON YOUR ROADS OR DRAINAGE AREAS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER,
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UH, WAS DECIDED.AND, UM, ROBERT CAN ASK A QUESTION RIGHT THERE.
UM, A LOT OF THE THINGS I'M FAMILIAR WITH, THEY'VE GOT TO BE BUTTED UP AGAINST ANOTHER ONE.
ANOTHER ARE TIED TO ONE ANOTHER.
CAN YOU HAVE THESE SET APART IN 2017, WE PASSED LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWED US TO HAVE NON-CONTIGUOUS DISTRICTS.
AND SO, UH, YOU HAVE INSTANCES ALL IN PRECINCT THREE THAT PROBABLY DROVE RICK STAFF NUTS, WHERE, UH, UH, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, JUST STRIPS OF RIGHT OF WAY PUT INTO A CERTAIN COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICT, JUST SO THAT WE COULD FUND A PROJECT.
UH, SO IF YOU LOOK AT TRUE MAPS OF WHAT WE'VE DONE, I MEAN, UH, BOWZER ROAD IN, IN WESTERN LAKES IS IN ONE CAD, MEANWHILE, SURROUNDED BY ANOTHER CAD.
WE DO IT ALL THE TIME, UM, WITH THE WAY THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S QUARTER SHAPING UP, I WOULD EXPECT YOU GUYS, THE WHOLE COUNTY TO SEE A LOT MORE OF THAT NOW THAT THE, UH, COMMISSIONER APPRECIATE PRECINCTS HAVE SHIFTED.
AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS, UM, TRYING TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO OF OUR DISTRICTS AND, AND BRING THEM OVER INTO, TO MEADOWS PLACE TO, UH, HELP YOU GUYS OUT WITH SOME OF YOUR PROJECTS.
SO, UM, BASICALLY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, USING THIS LANGUAGE AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TO JUSTIFY WHAT WE CAN DO, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, BRING, UH, BRING A DISTRICT INSIDE, UH, Y'ALL CITY AND POSSIBLY PARTNER ON SOME PROJECTS.
UH, YOU GUYS HAD GIVEN ME A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR OVER, UH, OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO HELP AND OFFER YOU GUYS OUR ASSISTANCE AND IN, UH, IN FUNDING, SOME OF THIS, WELL, THAT EXCITES US EXCITED, ME AND, UM, NICK, I THINK YOU HAVE A PRETTY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF, OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR US TO PUT SOME PAPERWORK TOGETHER, TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY, UH, TO DO THAT.
SO WHAT COUNCIL WOULD DO IS ESSENTIALLY, AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON THIS, AND IN FACT, WE HAVE A TEMPLATE NOW, ROBERT AND I HAVE SHARED SOME INFO, BUT WE WOULD PUT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, A PETITION TO, UM, BE INCLUDED IN WHICHEVER CID WE GET INTO A COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE THAT AT A COUNCIL MEETING.
THEN WE WOULD THEN SEND THAT ON TO THE COUNTY.
AND I IMAGINE YOU GUYS WOULD PUT THAT IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AT THAT TIME.
UH, I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHICH DISTRICT THAT NEED, I WANT TO WORK WITH, UH, WITH ALDERMAN STAGOLEE ON, ON THAT AND, UH, WORK WITH, UH, THE COMMISSIONER, BUT, UH, WE WILL BE ABLE TO INCLUDE YOU GUYS IN ONE OF THE DISTRICTS.
SO I'LL JUST ASK US TO, OR I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS TO JUST GIVE US A FEW MORE DAYS, UH, TO DO THAT.
AND, UH, WE COULD GET IT, YOU KNOW, ON A, AN AGENDA IN LATE DECEMBER OR EARLY JANUARY TO ACTUALLY TAKE ACTION ON THE PETITION, IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU GUYS.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, UM, WHAT CONSTITUTES THE DECISION ON WHICH DISTRICT TOOK SINCE WE'RE GETTING ADDED? IT IS JUST A MATTER OF LOGISTICS OF WHERE THE, IS IT BASED ON FUNDING? IS IT BASED ON PROJECTS BASED ON WHAT CRITERIA I HAD A MANAGERIAL RESPONSIBILITY OVER, UH, SIX OF THE COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICTS.
I'VE GOT A GOOD IDEA OF WHICH DISTRICTS HAVE THE MOST FUNDING.
UH, THAT SAID THEY'RE MOSTLY IN, UH, COMMISSIONER MORALES'S PRECINCT NOW.
SO, UM, THE ONE THAT'S CLOSEST TO YOU GUYS IS COUNTY ASSISTANCE, DISTRICT NUMBER, UH, NUMBERS SIX, TWO AND 11, 11 WAS ONE THAT I HAD DIRECT CONTROL OVER.
I WOULD PREFER TO, UH, MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO PUT IT IN COUNTY ASSISTANCE, DISTRICT NUMBER 11, SINCE, UH, BEFORE REDISTRICTING, OUR OFFICE WAS QUITE LITERALLY BEGGING OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO TAKE THE MONEY AND WE COULD NOT GET ANY TAKERS.
AND SO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS WILL BE OUR FIRST TAKER.
SO I GUESS I'M PUTTING THAT ON THE RECORD THAT, UH, THE PRECINCT THREE UTILITY DISTRICTS, UH, WOULD NOT ACTUALLY TAKE FREE MONEY.
UM, DAVID DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY.
AND JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, THIS DOES NOT AFFECT OUR SALES TAX COLLECTIONS AT ALL.
THIS'LL BE SALES TAX COLLECTED IN OTHER AREAS THAT THEN GETS SPENT HERE.
I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT EARLIER, THIS, THIS WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON THE CITY FINANCIALLY, WHATSOEVER.
CAUSE WE'RE ONE SQUARE MILE WITH NO MONEY, NO NEGATIVE.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, ANYBODY? BECAUSE
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IF YOU WANT TO STICK AROUND AND GO THROUGH THIS, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, YOU'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, BUT UH, IF YOU WANT TO SAY, HEY, I'VE HAD A THANKS, BUT I'VE HAD AN EVENING OF IT AND TAKE THE LIST WITH YOU SO WE CAN CALL THEM REFERENCE THAT'S UP TO YOU.OR YOU CAN HANG AROUND AS LONG AS YOU WANT TO.
IF Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL WANT ME HERE, I'VE, I'VE GOT TIME.
I'VE GOT TO GET MY KIDS BY EIGHT, BUT IT'S, IT'S REALLY, Y'ALL'S CALL ONE OTHER QUESTION THEN REPORT ON THIS LIST.
IS THERE, IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS OR REVIEWED IT, ARE THERE THINGS ON HERE THAT ARE NOT GOOD CANDIDATES FOR CAT, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SENT TO THEM YET.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS RIGHT NOW IS YOU GUYS HAVEN'T SEEN THIS LIST YET.
SO WE WANTED TO WORKSHOP THIS LIST WITH YOU COUNSEL, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ALSO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE PRIORITIZATION OF THESE ITEMS, JUST SO THAT WE COULD LET THE COUNTY KNOW WHAT WE THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FOR FUNDING.
THEN WE WOULD RUN IT THROUGH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE IT WAS ELIGIBLE, ET CETERA.
BUT REALLY THIS IS SORT OF A, A FAMILY MEETING IN HERE, UH, BEFORE WE SEND IT ON TO THE COUNTY, UM, WITH ONE UNIFIED VOICE ROBERT REAL QUICK, UH, WHERE IS CAT 11 LOCATED? JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, THE GENERAL BOUNDARIES OF THAT SPECIFIC COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICTS ARE, UM, SOUTH OF 10 93 RUNNING EAST AND WEST FROM FM 7 23 TO, UH, RIGHT OUTSIDE THIS AREA.
IT GOES, I THINK IT GOES TO AT LEAST SIX AND MAYBE TO BURNIE.
UM, AGAIN, BEING NON-CONTIGUOUS THAT LEGISLATURE, UH, AND ALSO BEFORE WE GET TO THIS LIST, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE MOST COMMON ITEMS ARE THAT THE CATS HAVE HELPED CITIES WITH IN THE PAST? I AM A BIG PROPONENT OF MOBILITY PROJECTS.
UM, SO JUST THE GENERAL HISTORY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL THROW MONEY AT ROADS.
WE JUST RECENTLY, UH, THROUGH, I BELIEVE IT WAS EIGHT AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AT A, UH, COUNTY LIBRARY, UH, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER TO MERCHANTS.
UH, W WHAT WAS IT, RICK THAT HE'S, HE'S DOING, HE'S PUTTING A FEW MILLION DOLLARS TOWARDS, UH, THERE'S SOME BIKE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING DONE, SIDEWALK, PROJECTS, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
I FEEL LIKE THAT ALL THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE IS GENERALLY USE IT FOR, FOR THE SAME PURPOSE, UH, FACILITIES, THE SIDEWALKS AND ROADS.
MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE, PREFERENCES, ROADS, AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
UM, I WANNA TAKE IT BACK OVER FOR JUST A SECOND, UM, BECAUSE YOU'LL NOTICE THIS LIST AND, UH, THIS IS TIME FOR US TO KICK IT AROUND AND READ IT.
WE'LL JUST GO PAGE BY PAGE AND LOOK AT IT.
UM, WE SAT DOWN, UH, NICK ROD, AND I BASICALLY PULLED THE STUFF OFF THE CIP, UH, NICK, AND THEN WHEN IT WENT OVER AND SPENT SOME TIME WITH ROD, UM, ANNA, MARIA, ET CETERA, AND, AND KINDA MASSAGE IT TO CLOSE TO THE LIST THAT YOU SEE HERE.
HE AND I THEN MET AGAIN FOR ABOUT AN HOUR, BUT THE OTHER DAY, LAST WEEK, I GUESS, AND PUT, UH, PUT THE ORDER IN.
AND WE BUMPED A COUPLE OF PROJECTS OUT.
UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING IN OUR CIP COVERED HERE.
AND WE PUT SOME THINGS UP TO THE TOP THAT WAS, UH, HAD BEEN IN THE BOTTOM OR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CIP, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF TRYING TO FIND MONEY TO FUND IT.
HOWEVER, IF WE'RE GOING TO GET COUNTY ASSISTANCE ON SOME OF THIS STUFF OR PICK UP PORTION OR ALL OF IT, THEN WE WON'T, AND OUR PARTNER WITH US ON IT, THEN THIS IS THE ORDER THAT WE CHOSE.
IT'S CERTAINLY NOT LOCKED IN STONE, BUT THIS WAS THE ORDER OF THAT.
AND SO DON'T BE BASHFUL IN SAYING WHY OR I THINK, AND LET'S MOVE, LIKE LOOK AND MOVING AROUND, BUT WE CAN ALL START WITH ONE AND THE ONE ON THE TOP.
AND I'M RICK, I'M GOING TO LET YOU TAKE AND EXPLAIN THAT TO ROBERT AND TO US, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A PRETTY HARD NUMBER ON THIS THAT WE'RE PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH AND THAT'S THE DORRANCE PROJECT.
SO WE'VE STARTED THE DESIGN FOR THE FIRST TWO BLOCKS OF DORRANCE, UM, UH, RECONSTRUCTION REPLACED THE PAVEMENT AND WITH THE INTENT OF DOING IT IN PHASES.
AND THEN ONCE WE GET THAT ONE DONE, CONTINUING TO WORK ALL THE WAY TO DAIRY ASHFORD, UM, WE'VE BEEN DOING IT, OR THE PLAN IS PAY AS YOU GO, AS WE GET ENOUGH MONEY, PUT ASIDE,
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THEN WE WOULD GO DO ANOTHER BLOCK.WE HAD CONSIDERED PUTTING IN PART OF THAT AS THE NEXT MOBILITY BOND PROJECTS, BUT IF WE CAN GET SOME OF IT FUNDED THROUGH THE CAD, WE COULD ADVANCE IT THAT WAY AS WELL.
UM, IT'S JUST REPLACING WHAT WAS THERE FOR THE MOST PART WERE REPLACING WATER LINES, STREETS, SIDEWALKS, DRIVEWAY, APRONS, UM, INLETS, BUT MOST OF THE TRUNK MAIN LINE FOR THE STORM SEWER IS GOOD.
AND SO THE, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION WE'LL HAVE IS CAN YOU REPAIR OR REPLACE WATER LINES WITH CHD FUNDING OR WITH THE COUNTY JUST BE IN PART OF THE STREETS AND THE CITY TAKES CARE OF THE WATER LINES, ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE, THE, THE CODE, UH, SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT ASSOCIATED DRAINAGE AREAS.
SO, UM, WE, WE CAN, IT'S, I THINK MORE OF A PREFERENCE OF WHAT THE CITY IS WANTING US TO PARTICIPATE IN MORE THAN, MORE THAN ANYTHING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL OBVIOUSLY WANT OUR COSTS OR AT LEAST CLOSE ESTIMATES TO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT, AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT A COST SHARING AS THE PHASES, YOU KNOW, GO ON.
AND I THINK PART OF CHARLIE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIORITIZING THIS, I THINK PART OF IT'S GOING TO BE UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT FUNDING IS.
BECAUSE WE CAN SPEND IT AS FAST AS THE COUNTY GIVES IT TO US.
UM, WE'VE GOT AN ESTIMATE OF 85 MILLION TO REPLACE ALL THE STREETS AND WATER LINES IN THE CITY.
UM, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THAT EXERCISE.
SO AT A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, THAT'S A HUNDRED YEARS AT $2 MILLION THAT'S 50 YEARS.
UM, AND SO, YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, ADVANCE OUR PROJECTS AS FAST AS WE CAN PUT MONEY ASIDE THROUGH ALL THE SOURCES.
AND THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE THE MONEY WE'RE PUTTING ASIDE FROM SALES TAX AD VALOREM, THE EDC, ANY ASSISTANCE WE CAN GET FROM THE COUNTY.
SO, BECAUSE DORRANCE IS MO IN MOTION, THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
WHEN DOES THAT LATER? NOT HER TOMORROW.
UH, WELL, HAVE WE CALLED, WE HAVEN'T BROKEN A TIMEOUT TO TALK ABOUT THE DORRANCE FUNDING SPECIFICALLY THIS FIRST.
SO ROBERT, WE NEED A NUMBER FROM YOU TONIGHT, HOW MUCH, AND JUST LIKE THAT WE WENT TO A SIMONTON.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
AND, AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, RICK, IF I'M HEARING YOU RIGHT, UH, WE FEEL COMFORTABLE IN BEING ABLE TO WALK THIS THING THROUGH AND S AND STEPS, UH, BASED ON THE COUNTY, UH, ASSISTANCE THROUGH THE CAN WITH WHAT OUR HAVE AND WHAT WE WILL DO IS ON THE PAGE, RIGHT? WE, WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT PLANS FOR DORRANCE FROM BLOOMINGTON TO KIRKWOOD NOW, AND THAT'S THE, THE STREET, THAT'S THE ONE STREET THAT TRAVERSES THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF OUR CITY.
AND ACCORDING TO OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR, OUR EDC, IT'S DOWN, THE ONE THAT THEY CAN REALLY HELP WITH BECAUSE IT'S PART OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR ECONOMIC YOU'RE DRIVING.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RIGHT NOW, WE ARE DECIDING WHEN TO BID THAT PROJECT.
WE WERE LOOKING AT JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, WE KIND OF PUT THAT ON HOLD TO SEE WHAT THIS DISCUSSION LEADS TO.
BUT OUR INTENT IS ONCE WE GET THE SECOND PHASE OR THE SECOND BLOCK OF THAT DONE, OR IN CONSTRUCTION, WE WOULD START DESIGN ON THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH WOULD BE KIRKWOOD TO AMBERWOOD.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT AS FAR AS NUMBERS WITH THE, WHEN YOU SAY BLOOMINGTON TO KIRKWOOD? SO THE PHASE ONE WAS 2.7 RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT? WE WERE ACTUALLY, WE'VE GOT THE PLANS BROKE UP INTO TWO PHASES, ONE BLOCK EACH.
AND SO PHASE ONE WAS ABOUT 1.3 MILLION AND PHASE TWO IS 1.4.
UM, OH, BUT THAT'S FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COST ONLY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO COUNSEL, WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS SHEET RIGHT HERE IS A, UH, THE GROSS NUMBER OF, OF 10.4, UM, INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR PHASE ONE AND TWO.
WE BACKED OUT THE ENGINEERING CAUSE THAT'S ALREADY DONE.
AND THEN, UH, THE BALANCE OF THAT'S GOING TO BE BOTH DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE FOR THE REST OF IT.
AND THE WAY WE CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER WAS WE BASICALLY DID A, UH, UH, DIRTY MATH JOB OF FIGURING OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD PER LINEAR FOOT FOR
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WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DESIGNED AND EXTRAPOLATE THAT FOR THE REST OF IT.SO YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 5,000 LINEAR FEET FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END OF KIRKWOOD.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE 10.4 SHOWS YOU RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT INCLUDES A CONTINGENCY FOR ENGINEERING ON THE REST OF IT.
RICK ASSURES ME, THIS IS WITHIN 5% OF WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO COST TO GET THAT COURTNEY.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOT THAT UP.
NUMBER ONE, UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT PLANS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WORKING, UH, WITH, UH, ROD IS WORKING WITH, UH, USW, UM, TO GET MOVING ON THE REHABILITATION OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH INCLUDES THE SCOPE OF WORK AS IT'S LISTED HERE, UH, WHICH IS BASICALLY A COMPLETE REBUILD OF EVERYTHING, BUT AT THE TIME, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, JUST RIGHT UNDER A MILLION BUCKS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO MOVE AHEAD ON ROBERT.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS SET THROUGH AND WE'RE PLANNING ON TRYING TO, UH, USE, UH, ARPA MONEY FOR SOME OF THIS.
AND SO IF Y'ALL HAVE SOME ARPA MONEY LAYING AROUND, UH, WEED, CAUSE WHICH DOES FOR, UH, WASTEWATER AND WATER TREATMENT, WHICH WE'VE GOT SOME MORE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, UH, WATER TREATMENT REQUIREMENTS, UH, WE'LL TAKE ALL YOUR ARPA MONEY.
THAT'S A CHEF THROW OUR WAY TO, I, UH, JUST TEXTED THE REST OF MY TEAM, ASKING THAT QUESTION, IF WE'VE GOT ANY ARPA FUNDS AND JUST GOT A RESPONSE BACK, UH, THAT, UH, WE DO HAVE FUNDS FOR, UH, FOR THIS.
SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL, UH, LOOKING AT THE, UH, WASTE WATER.
YEAH, THERE, I'M GETTING TEXTS FROM EVERYBODY ON THE TEAM RIGHT NOW.
UH, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT, UH, Y'ALL SEND A REQUEST UP, UH, TO OUR OFFICE TO PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA.
WE, WE WOULD NEED SOMETHING OFFICIAL.
WE JUST DID THIS WITH FORT BEN MUD 37, WHICH HAS PINNELL VILLAGE.
AND THE KATY AREA LITERALLY DID THIS LAST MONTH WHERE WE CONTRIBUTED FUNDS FOR THEIR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UH, UH, REHAB.
UH, SO THIS IS THERE'S PRECEDENTS TO FUND THIS TYPE OF STUFF.
SO I WOULD IMPLORE YOU ALL TO, UH, WE DO THAT.
WELL, THE FIGURES ALREADY COMING IN FROM USW, IS THAT OKAY? IS THAT, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH TO SEND THAT INTO THE COUNTY? DO YOU THINK? UM, I THINK AS LONG AS IT'S A PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING ESTIMATE, THAT'D BE ENOUGH FOR THE COUNTY.
ROBERT, ALL WE'RE GOING TO NEED IS A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN GET THE MONEY ALLOCATED THAT LITERALLY ALL IT'S GOING TO TAKE IS AN ESTIMATE FROM Y'ALL WITH A REQUEST SIGNED OFF BY, UH, THE CITY, UH, GET THAT ON THE AGENDA.
WE COULD DO THAT BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND HOPEFULLY THE REST OF THE COURT WOULD GO ALONG WITH, UH, WITH THROWING SOME MONEY AT THIS, WHAT WE DID WITH, UM, MUD 37, I BELIEVE IT WAS A, UH, LET'S SEE, THERE'S 75, 25 OR A 50 50 COST SHARE.
I HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK MY RECORDS, BUT WE, WE DID FUND A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT.
IT WAS, IT WAS 200 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE FUNDED FOR THAT PROJECT.
SO OUR CALL TO ACTION IS TO GET THAT ESTIMATE TOGETHER AND GET IT OVER THERE.
AND WHEN ROBERT SAYS WE CAN POSSIBLY DO IT THIS MONTH, THE DEADLINE TO GET ON THE 21ST AGENDA IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY THE 13TH.
WHEN DOES THAT MEAN? SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON THE 12TH THEN, SO WE CAN, WELL, LET ME ASK THIS, ROBERT, WOULD IT SUFFICE IF LET'S SAY COUNCIL DID GO AHEAD AND TAKE ACTION TONIGHT? WOULD IT SUFFICE IF YOU LET'S SAY, GOT A LETTER FROM THE MAYOR CERTIFYING THE COUNCIL'S ACTIONS SAYING THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING? YES.
HE SAID, LET ME JUST GET A LETTER FROM THE MAYOR THAT SUFFICE.
SO, SO LET'S, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BACKTRACK.
I MOVED TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR AND CITY SECRETARY TO, UH, SUBMIT A LETTER TO THE COUNTY, UH, REGARDING THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR OUR PRE-FUNDING BASED ON THE ESTIMATE
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OF $950,000.THE SECOND TIME, SECOND THERE BY TANYA, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED HEARING NONE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
PLUS WE HAD MAC AND CHEESE, UM, MOVING ON TO WASTEWATER WATER AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
WE'VE GOT A, UM, WATER PLANT THAT WAS BUILT IN THE SIXTIES.
UM, THIS PART WAS PROBABLY BUILT IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES.
I TRIED TO FIND OUT, BE A GOOGLER BY 75.
SO I'M PRETTY COMFORTABLE SAYING IT WAS IN BETWEEN THERE.
AND THEN, UM, SO THINGS ARE WEARING OUT AND THOSE ARE OLD, OLD, OLD, UH, LIFT PUMPS.
UH, AND WE'RE TRYING TO REPLACE TWO OF THEM.
PLUS IT WILL TAKE, WE'RE GOING TO GET NEW VARIABLE SPEED, MORE EFFICIENT AND MODERN CONTROLS, UH, IN OUR, AND WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT IN THIS COST ESTIMATE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THEM $175,000.
UH, WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALSO SUBMIT, UM, OR WOULD WE BE BETTER OFF WAITING A MONTH? MAYOR? I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU ASK FOR AS MUCH AS YOU CAN RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT THE LIST SEPARATE ONCE.
UM, IN, IN SEPARATE, IN SEPARATE ASKS ARE THE SAME.
IF, UH, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT YOU SEND ONE REQUEST WITH IT, YOU KNOW, BULLET POINTED OUT A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER, UH, WITH THE TOTAL COST.
THAT WAY WE CAN RODEN EVERYTHING OR WOULD FOR OUR PER MONEY FOR, YEAH.
JUST TALKING ABOUT THE ARPA RIGHT NOW.
SO THE WASTEWATER, THE LIFT STATION.
SO TRUTHFULLY, I HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO THE ARPA FUNDING, UM, CAUSE IT'S NOT UNDER OUR DEPARTMENT.
THE, UM, I GUESS WHAT ARE THEY FUNDING? IS, IS IT PO OR IS IT GENERATORS? IS IT I'LL, I'LL RUN DOWN THERE.
I'LL RUN ON THE LIST FOR YOU REAL QUICK.
THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS A YES.
FOR, FOR, UH, THAT FITTING ARPA.
UH, SO AS THE LIFT STATION, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, I BELIEVE THE EOC GENERATOR AS WELL, A WATER PLANT, NUMBER THREE, UM, THE NEXT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, THE CITY HALL GENERATOR.
THOSE ARE THE ITEMS I CAN SAY WITH PRETTY STRONG CONFIDENCE WOULD BE, UH, UH, GO TO REQUESTS FOR ARPA FUNDING.
I WANT TO KNOW, DID WE GET THAT NEARBY? GET THAT? I LOST IT.
IT'S BASICALLY EVERYTHING DOWN THROUGH CITY HALL, WHICHEVER CITY HALL GENERALLY WILL BE, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE, UH, BASED OFF OF EMERGENCY OPERATIONS.
YOU COULD JUSTIFY IT UNDER THAT AND THEY CAN ALWAYS TELL US NO THAT IT'S NOT, UM, ELIGIBLE AND, AND KICK IT BACK TO US.
COUNTY DOES HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT WE HAVE TO RUN THROUGH, UH, FOR ANY OF THESE REQUESTS AND DATE.
THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD ABOUT GETTING BACK TO US, UH, IN A QUICK TURNAROUND WITH ALL THAT.
CAN WE AMEND OUR MOTION TO, I THINK I'LL HAVE TO DO A SEPARATE MOTION CAUSE WE ALREADY VOTED.
SO I MOVED TO ADD THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO THE MAYOR'S LETTER, THE LIFT STATION, PUMP REPLACEMENT, WASTEWATER TREATMENT, PLANT EOC GENERATOR FOR EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER, WATER PLANT NUMBER THREE, GENERATOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, GENERATOR AND CITY HALL GENERATOR TO THE REQUEST FOR ARPA FUNDING.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR.
CAN YOU POST MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THEN AS WE CONTINUE ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT LIST, ANYTHING THAT GETS REJECTED, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND POSSIBLY ADD TO THE, UM, REQUEST THROUGH THE RE THE CAD REQUEST.
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I THINK WE ARE TOO.UM, IF THAT RUNS US DOWN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE NEXT MONTH, WHICH HAS AUTOMATION, SCADA, UPGRADED WATER AND WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS.
UM, I KNOW, UH, THESE TWO, DAN DAVID AND KURT HAVE GOT A REAL GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING COUNSEL CAUSE ROD SPENT ABOUT 30 MINUTES ON IT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF IT AND WHAT, WHAT IT'S DOING FOR US NOT TO HAVE IT AND WHY WE'RE HAVING TO DO SO MUCH WORK EVERY MORNING, UH, MANUALLY THAT COULD BE DONE AUTOMATICALLY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THIS IS IT.
PLUS IT'S A, ALLOWS HIM BETTER CONTROL, WHEREAS ESPECIALLY WHERE W TIE INTO THE, UH, LIKE WATER AND THE RECENT RECLAIMED BAR.
UH, WE'VE GOT A BIG RECLAIMED WATER PROJECT HERE IN CITY OF MEADOWS PLACE, AND THAT WOULD ALL BE PART OF THAT PROJECT AS WELL.
UH, AND THAT WOULD BE A, AND IT'S SITTING DOWN WHERE IT IS BECAUSE EVERYTHING ABOVE IT IS CLASSIFIED MORE CRITICAL.
OKAY, WE CAN DO THIS, BUT IF WE CAN GET THIS DONE, IT WOULD SIMPLIFY, UH, ARE, ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH, UH, AUTOMATION IN OUR WATER SYSTEM.
UM, THE DRAINAGE OUTFALL REPAIRS, WE JUST COMPLETED ONE FRANKLIN.
I MEANT TO ASK ROD TODAY, HOW MUCH THAT COST US, UH, SEEMS MAY HAVE SPENT ALMOST $40,000.
UM, WE JUST HAD OUR SECOND ONE IN THE PAST FEW YEARS COLLAPSED.
UH, WE'VE GOT 12 TO GO, UH, AND THERE'S, THEY'RE JUST, IT'S THE TIME AND EVERYTHING'S WEARING OUT AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, AND RICK, WHAT ARE THOSE ARE THOSE, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SIZES.
I KNOW A LOT OF THEM ARE 20 FOURS, BUT WE'VE GOT UP TO 60 INCH OUTFALLS COMING INTO THAT DITCH.
SO WE'VE GOT MOST OF THE ONES THAT ARE FAILING ARE THE 24 HOURS TO 36 IS 'CAUSE.
I THINK WE'VE DONE ONE THAT WAS IN THE THREES IN THE 30 OR 36, SO, OKAY.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S THERE NOW.
IS THIS GONNA KILL US IF WE DON'T GET THIS DONE? NO, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO END UP DOING THEM ONE AT A TIME UNDER AN EMERGENCY BASIS.
AND AS WE GO THROUGH OUR RESERVES TO FUND DORRANCE, ET CETERA, THIS IS GOING TO BE AN AREA THAT WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO FUND WITH.
SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT THIS ON THE LIST OF PUT IT UNDER THE CAT.
UM, THIS IS, UH, ANOTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, ROBERT THAT, UH, WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH COUNCIL COUPLE, COUPLE YEARS AGO, MAYBE ALMOST THREE, UH, TO DIVVY UP THE CITY TO START THIS PROJECT.
AND WE ACTUALLY PICKED FIVE MAIN STREETS, THE WORK, AND, UH, FIGURED OUT WHICH ONES TO DO AT FIRST.
UM, AND WE CAME UP WITH, THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER MAIN OR, UH, NORTH, SOUTH, UH, TRIBUTARY OR A ROADWAY TO REPAIR.
AND IT CARRIES QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC.
AND SO THIS IS WHY WE CHOSE THAT ONE.
UM, AND THIS IS, UH, INFORMED MILLION 4 MILLION, 100,000 IS WHAT WE HAVE, UH, GUESSTIMATES PER, PER LINEAR FOOT WITH THE ADDITION OF THE, UH, ENGINEERING AND DESIGN ON TOP OF IT.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT ONE'S THERE.
I WOULD JUST CHIME IN REAL QUICK MAYOR AND SAY, UM, GIVEN WHERE IT IS ON THE LIST, I WOULD, UH, SAY THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ANOTHER BOND, UH, AS EARLY AS 20 23, 20 24, UH, THAT, THAT HAS BEEN KICKED AROUND A FEW TIMES ALREADY.
I'M SURE THAT, UH, YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COURT HERE AND THERE.
YOU'VE HEARD FROM ELISA LAWN, EVERYTHING WE'RE HEARING AND STILL LEADS TO 20, 23, AS LONG AS WE CAN START SPENDING THE 20, 20 BOND MONEY, WHICH MOST OF THOSE ARE ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT FOR DESIGN.
AND SO WE'LL START BURNING THROUGH THAT MONEY PRETTY QUICK.
UM, I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THIS BE CONSIDERED FOR REQUESTS, UH, TO, TO OUR OFFICE FOR INCLUSION ON THE 20 23, 20 24 AND MOBILITY BOND PACKAGE.
SO I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO THE GUY WITH THE PURSE DRINKS, AND WE'LL
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PULL THIS FROM THIS LIST.COUNSEL, THAT'D BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN WHEN THE 20 23 4 BEN MOBILITY BOND PROJECT COMES UP, WE'LL INCLUDE THAT AS OUR REQUEST, WHICH IF I'D LIKE SERVER REMINDER, THAT'S WHAT WE DID AIRPORT WITH.
AND WHAT WE DID KIRKWOOD WITH WAS PART OF THE MOBILITY AND MOBILITY BOND PROJECT, UH, WHICH TAKES US DOWN TO SANITARY SEWER.
I REALLY WANT TO SEE THIS DONE.
UM, THE SMOKE TEST PART WILL BE FUN TO WATCH, BUT THE SMOKE TEST ISN'T THAT EXPENSIVE.
I SAID, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE FOR THE FUN OF IT.
AND WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE CITY MEADOWS PLACE.
UM, PRIOR TO ME COMING ON TO COUNCIL, UH, DAN MCGRAW, UH, HAS TALKED ABOUT IT.
AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU FIND OUT WHEN YOU RUN A SMOKE TEST, NICK IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE FUNNY THINGS THAT YOU FIND OUT WHEN YOU RUN A SMOKE TEST.
AND, UM, IT, IT, IT BASICALLY YOU SIT DOWN THERE AND BLOW SMOKE IN YOUR LINES AND, UH, WHERE IT COMES OUT AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE A PROBLEM AND YOU CAN HAVE IT.
AND WE DO HAVE AN INCREASED MORE WATER THAN WE SHOULD DURING A RAIN.
UH, SO WE'RE PULLING WATER IN FROM PLACES THAT WE SHOULDN'T.
SO, UH, AND THAT'S, UH, RIGHT NOW, AND AGAIN, ROBERT, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD FALL UNDER THE CAD, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE GOT A FAIRLY COMFORTABLE COST, UH, ESTIMATE ON.
UH, SO I'D LIKE TO LEAVE THAT IN THERE, IF YOU THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, YES, I'D SAY IT.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER.
UM, RESTOCK, RECYCLED STORAGE TANK, UH, COUNCIL IS AWARE THAT, UH, UH, WE'RE GOT SOME PURPLE PIPE IN PLACE.
I WAS JUST WAITING ON THE WATER STORAGE AND DISTRIBUTION, UH, TO GET THAT DONE.
UH, IT KINDA GOT BUMPED BACK THROUGH TO SOME OTHER STUFF.
UM, AND, AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, BE 150,000, BASICALLY, ROBERT, THAT'S JUST, IT'S A STORAGE TANKS, 50,000 GALLON STORAGE TANK, SOME LINE TO CONNECT UP TO EXISTING PURPLE PIPE THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT IN, LIKE ON KIRKWOOD AND IN OUR PARKS.
SO IS THIS LOCATED IN A PUBLIC PROPERTY PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY? IT'D BE AT OUR, A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A SPOT FOR IT ALREADY.
AND, UM, BASICALLY WE'RE PRODUCING MORE RECYCLED WATER THAN WE CAN STORE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
SO WE JUST NEED A LARGER STORAGE TANK.
UH, THE REASON I ASKED MAYOR IS EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ON PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY SLASH PROPERTY.
SO THIS ONE, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS LOCATED ON UNFOLLOWED PROPERTY.
SOMETIMES THESE ARE LOCATED, IT'S LOCATED ON, UH, I'VE SEEN THESE LOCATED ELSEWHERE WHERE WE COULDN'T GET ACCESS TO IT.
THAT'S WHY I HAD THE QUESTION.
OH, NO, THAT WOULDN'T BE THE CASE HERE AT ALL.
UM, FISHING PIER AND NON-MOTORIZED BOAT DOCK, THAT'S A PARKS PROJECT, UH, THAT WE WOULD, UH, REQUEST IN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD FALL UNDER CAD FUNDING OR NOT.
THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE, UH, GIVEN THAT WE DO HAVE, UH, PARKS BOND MONEY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SPEND.
SO, UM, W TH THIS ONE MIGHT BE A LITTLE EASIER AND THAT WE COULD JUST NOT EVEN HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY ACTUAL, UH, UH, REQUESTS OR INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT OR THE LIKE, AND JUST SIMPLY THROW MONEY AT YOU GUYS.
SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS, WHAT'S MY CALL TO ACTION TO GET THAT FUNDING.
UM, I'LL BE IN THE OFFICE TOMORROW AND I'LL START WORKING WITH OUR PARKS DIRECTOR AND, UH, ASK HIM TO, UH, TO GIVE ME $20,000, I GUESS.
THAT'S, UH, I, I W WE, WE DO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR EACH PRECINCT.
UM, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS GOSH, $7 MILLION APPROXIMATE $100,000.
UM, SO A LOT OF THE MONEY HAS BEEN ALLOCATED OUT, BUT, UH, THE, I THINK WE'VE GOT ENOUGH WIGGLE ROOM TO, UH, IT IS AN ONGOING PARKS PROJECT.
AND YOU'LL SEE THIS UTILIZE PRAYER.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME OUT AND WATCH.
I MEAN, IT'S A, UH, IT'S AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR ME AND I INVITE YOU OUT BY THE WAY.
UH, IF YOU'VE GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO, COME WATCH OUR TROUT RELEASE AND THAT'S ON A TUESDAY, UH, TO COME OUT AND SEE US WHEN THEY PUT THAT.
YEAH, MY SON WILL ENJOY SEEING SOME TROUT FLY.
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OKAY.UM, IT IS, UH, 2011 AND 12, DEPENDING ON TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO LAUNCH HIM.
AND, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE HERE EARLY THAT MORNING TO GET THEIR SPOTS AND, UH, THEY START FISHING THEM.
WELL, THE KIDS BE OUT AS WELL FROM THE OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
WE'LL COME OVER FOR THE PROGRAM, AT LEAST THE FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADERS WE HAVE, I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM MORE MIDNIGHT ISD ON THE RELEASE YET.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY DID A NEW ROOF ON THE FIELD HOUSE METAL ROOF REPLACEMENT.
UH, OF COURSE, THAT, THAT ROOF WENT IN YEARS AND GO AND LOOK ON THE BUILDING.
BUT I FORGET WHEN THAT BUILDING WAS PUT UP, THAT'S THE ORIGINAL ROOF.
IT'S STANDING STEEL SCENE, BUT IT'S, UH, UH, IT'S IN NEED OF REPAIR TENNIS COURT RESURFACING, UH, ALDERMAN STIEGLITZ BEEN FOLLOWING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, CAN I, CAN I GET MY INTERRUPT, THE TENNIS COURTS OUT? NO, IT'S USED EVERY DAY.
UM, WE HAVE HIGHLY USED AND HIS COURT RESURFACING SAYING, UH, TENNIS COURT USAGE AND, UM, WE JUST NEVER HAD THE MONEY TO REPLACE RESURFACE AND DO THE WHOLE THING.
THIS WOULD, AGAIN, FALL UNDER A PARKS BOND.
YOU HAD 7 MILLION, THIS ISN'T EVEN A DENT IN IT.
SO I GUESS I GOT, I, I DO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR.
A LOT OF IT IS ALLOCATED, BUT I, I CAN GO BACK TO OUR, HE'S GOT IT.
HE'S GOING TO TALK TO HIS PARKS DIRECTOR.
I, I, I WOULDN'T NEED ANYTHING FROM YOU GUYS.
I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS BACK AND, UH, REVIEW IT WITH, WITH OUR PARKS DIRECTOR, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS.
THEN WE HAVE A FOUR BED MOBILITY BOND PROJECT.
W W THAT'S JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE HAVE THAT AND, UH, ONGOING, UM, AND THE CITY MEADOWS PLACE PORTION AT THIS POINT IS ABOUT $500,000.
UM, AND WE ALREADY HAVE AN INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON THIS PROJECT.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT HIGHLIGHTED IN THERE'S CAUSE WE REALLY IT'S.
THE DYE HAS BEEN CAST ON THIS ONE.
AND SO THE POINT WAS, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON THIS AND SAYING WE HAVE IN THE PAST.
SO WE CAN THEN DOWN AT THE BOTTOM IS A, A BIGGIE.
UH, WE HAD, UH, WOULD CONTRACT WITH HEWITT ZOLLARS I THINK YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THEM.
UM, THE CITY HAD COME IN, THEY DID ONE OF THOSE COMPLETE NEEDS ASSESSMENT WHERE THEY TALKED TO EVERYBODY AND THEY WALKED AROUND AND THEY MEASURED AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF.
UM, AND TO INCREASE EFFICIENCIES AND SAFETY, SECURITY, THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, INCLUDING A NEW, UH, AN UPGRADE FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, WITH WHAT'S THAT THING, THAT PORTER CASHIER THING.
WHAT DOES THAT CALL SALLY PORT? YEAH, THAT'S CLOSED IN PORTER.
SHECK PORTER CACHE, UH, INCLUDING THE SALLY PORT, UH, THAT TYPE OF THING, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST NOT PREPARED.
I MEAN, WE DO IT, BUT, UH, IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEY CAME TO TOTAL LATE MILLION DOLLARS.
YOU HAVE A MILLION PLUS LAYING AROUND DOING NOTHING.
THESE PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER IT.
AND I SAY THEM BECAUSE I'M HAPPY WITH THE WAY IT IS.
BUT, UH, WE DID, WE DID ASK THE QUESTION THAT WE GOT AN ANSWER AND THERE WAS A FIGHT DYNAMICS.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S ON THAT LIST.
AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE PLANS OR ANYTHING, NEXT TIME YOU COME OVER AND HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE, SOMETHING WE'LL SHELTER, UM, COUNSEL, THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE I AM AND WE'VE RE RUN THROUGH THIS.
UH, AND THERE'S A BUNCH STILL ON THE CFP.
THAT'S NOT INCLUDED ON THIS, BUT THIS WERE THE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE APPLICABLE UNDER ARPA AND CAD.
UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE GUESSED PRETTY GOOD.
UM, SO ROBERT, UH, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US OR ANYTHING? NO, SIR.
I DO APPRECIATE Y'ALL, UH, PRESENTING THIS TO US.
I'LL BE WORKING WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND OUR, OUR STAFF STARTING ON THIS.
AND IF I DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE WORKING WITH NICK ON, ON ALL THIS.
ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANYTHING FOR ROBERT? JUST THANK YOU FOR COMING AND MEETING WITH US.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY AND SEEING WHAT YOU GUYS CAN DO TO HELP US.
UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO BE OUT HERE.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS, BUILDING SOME, SOME NEW RELATIONSHIPS AND, UH, UH, GETTING TO WORK.
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FOR HAVING ME.YOU BET THE NEW INTERESTING DYNAMIC WHEN EVERYBODY'S WORKING IN A NEW FIELD, ISN'T IT? YES, SIR.
ROBERT, YOU MAY WANT TO LISTEN IN, UH, ITEM D CAUSE IT, IT IS TALKING ABOUT THAT MOBILITY PROJECT.
UM, IT, UH, IT WON'T TAKE US THAT LONG TO GET THROUGH IT.
I DON'T THINK, I THINK ITEM C WE'VE ALREADY COVERED.
HAVE WE NOT? WELL, I APPROVED OR MY MOTION WAS TO SUBMIT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
IT WASN'T FOR THE CONSENT LETTER.
SO SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
WELL, THIS WAS A PLACEHOLDER ITEM CAUSE WE JUST WANTED TO PUT IT IN THERE IN CASE WE HAD THE LETTER READY TO GO, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T.
SO AS SOON AS WE GET THESE DETAILS FROM THE COUNTY ON WHICH CAD IT IS, ET CETERA, THEN WE CAN GET THAT, THAT CONSENT LETTER DRAFTED UP.
AND WE'LL PUT THAT ON A FUTURE COUNCIL AGENDA.
UH, WHEN, WHEN, UH, WE MAKE OUR FINAL DETERMINATION, I'LL ALSO BE WORKING WITH RICK ON, UH, ON THIS.
I'LL GET HIS STAFF TO WORK ON THE, UH, THE MAPS THAT WILL NEED TO BE DONE.
I'M SURE RICK, YOU CAN, YOU CAN WORK WITH YOUR TEAM AND, AND, UH, FINALIZE THAT, BUT WE'LL GET WITH YOU GUYS, UH, VERY QUICKLY.
ONCE WE DETERMINE WHICH DISTRICTS WE WANT TO UTILIZE, CAN WE AUTHORIZE THAT CONSENT TONIGHT DOING EVEN THEY DO, UH, WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE THE DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, FOR, FOR COUNSELED AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR OR COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR TO SIGN IT.
SO WE WON'T, UH, I'M JUST GOING TO PUT TABLE ON THE ITEM, SEE NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN ITEM D DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE LOCATION AND TIMING IN THE GUN MOBILITY BOND PROJECT.
UH, THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED EARLIER A COUPLE OF TIMES.
AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS, UH, UM, POSSIBLE PIPELINE OR TRAIL LOCATION DUE TO THE POSSIBLE LOCATE OR THE POSSIBLE PIPELINE ON THE WEST SIDE, RICK, I'M GONNA LET YOU TAKE THIS CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH, UM, CENTER POINT AND THE PIPELINE FOLKS.
WE, WE DID GET A RESPONSE BACK FROM CENTER POINT LAST WEEK.
UM, THEY DON'T HAVE THE SCHEDULE FOR THE PIPELINE AS YET, OR THE FINAL DESIGN.
UM, HOWEVER, THEY DO KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF, OF THEIR PROPERTY, WHICH SITS AT RIGHT BESIDE THE DITCH.
UM, SO OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR CHOICE IS OBVIOUSLY MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE SO THAT THE PIPELINE DOESN'T RIP UP OUR TRAIL.
WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GO ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE FEE EASEMENT AT THAT POINT, BUT WE FOUND OUT THERE'S A 30 FOOT, UM, GAS OR A KINDER MORGAN EASEMENT ON THAT SIDE.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT KINDER MORGAN IS TOUGH TO DEAL WITH.
AND SO CENTER POINT HAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE KIND OF SNAKE THROUGH THE CENTER OF THEIR PROPERTY BETWEEN TOWERS.
IT'S NOT MY FAVORITE LOCATION ON ANYBODY'S FACE, BUT OUR CHOICE IS EITHER GO THERE OR WAIT FOR THE PIPELINE TO GO IN AND SEE IF WE CAN GO ABOVE THE PIPELINE.
CURRENTLY, THIS PIPELINE WAS SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST OF 2022.
IF THEY STILL CAN'T TELL US WHERE IT'S GOING IN THE EASEMENT, I CAN TELL YOU IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BUILT IN AUGUST OF 2022.
UM, SO I DON'T THE QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL IS, DO WE WANT TO GO IN THE CENTER OR DO WE WANT TO POSTPONE THIS PROJECT BY A YEAR OR MORE QUESTION? UH, SINCE WE CAN'T GO TO THE WEST, THAT WOULD, THAT ALSO PREVENT THEM FROM GOING TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE TOWER.
SO THE ONLY PLACE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO LOGICALLY IS PROBABLY RIGHT THERE, RIGHT NEXT TO IT, AFTER THEY'VE PUT IT IN OR IN THE CENTER.
AND IF YOU PUT IT TOO CLOSE TO THAT PIPELINE, IF THEY HAVE TO COME WORK ON THAT PIPELINE, THEY'RE GOING TO DAMAGE OUR TRAIL.
IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE 30 YEARS BEFORE THEY TOUCH IT AGAIN, BUT THAT PIPE'S GUARANTEED FOR YEARS.
UM, WELL WE'RE TALKING POSTPONING THIS FOR FREE THREE TO FOUR YEARS, THEN I'D SAY A COUPLE OF GUYS, THIS PIPELINE THERE, IF THEY'RE TRYING TO GET PIPELINES, PEOPLE, LET THEM PUT THEM IN.
THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT THEM IN, BUT RED POINTS OUT IF THEY'RE WANTING TO START IN AUGUST AND THEY DON'T HAVE A LE LAY DOWN LOCATION, YOU CAN'T LOOK UP ON THIS MAP THAT THEY GOT A BACKHOE SOMEWHERE.
UH, THEN THEY PROBABLY NOT MAKE IT.
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HOW FAR, HOW LONG IS THE GUESTS? IS HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO BE? I DON'T KNOW.I'VE SEEN THEM LAY PIPELINE AND THEY DO IT IN HER, BUT DOESN'T LOOK TO ME LIKE THEY'VE EVEN GOT TO START IT.
UM, COUNSEL, I HAVE A QUESTION RICK, BEFORE THAT LOOKING AT THIS, IF WE I'M INTERESTED IN TWO THINGS, ONE OF THEM IS A PARKING LOT.
UM, CAUSE WE NEED THAT FOR THE EOC AND UH, ADDITIONAL TRAINING.
AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SECURITY AND ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF THAT WE TRAIN WITH OTHER OTHER DEPARTMENTS ON.
WE NEED THAT, UH, TRAINING STATION AND ALSO THE BRIDGE CROSS THE BY.
AND NOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN ON THAT WEST SIDE OR ON THE EAST SIDE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO START A MENTAL, THAT PIPELINE IS DONE.
WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PUT THE BRIDGE IN, BUT WE COULD PUT THE REST OF THE TRAIL IN.
AND TRUTHFULLY, WE COULD PROBABLY PUT THE BRIDGE IN, WE'LL JUST HAVE A GAP 20, 30 FEET THAT WE'LL HAVE TO FILL IN ONCE THE, IF YOU TELL THEM ABOUT THE TRAIL.
SHE THINK WE CAN GET THE FOOTINGS IN AND GET THE BRIDGE UP.
UM, SO I MEAN, I SURE THAT ARGUE, WELL, THE FOOTINGS SHOULD BE IN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT SHOULD NOT RIGHT AWAY.
IT SHOULD NOT BE IN CENTER POINT.
OH, GUESS WHAT? THE KIDS WILL WALK ACROSS THE GRASS.
OR EVEN IF WE PUT IN 30 FEET OF CROCK GRANITE AND IT GETS RIPPED UP, THAT'S NOT A BIG HARDSHIP.
WELL, THAT'S NOT WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF GOING AHEAD WITH THAT.
WELL, THE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR COUNCIL? DO WE WANT TO JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE AHEAD WITH PUTTING IT DOWN THE CENTER RATHER THAN WAIT.
I'M NOT THE BIGGEST FAN OF GOING RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE.
I'M NOT A FAN EITHER, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO WAIT A YEAR OR TWO YEARS EITHER.
WELL, WHEN DO YOU THINK WE WILL KNOW THE FINAL LOCATION OF THE PIPELINE? THAT'S THE KEY.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT THREE MONTHS, THEN IT'S WORTH WAITING THREE MONTHS.
BUT IF WE, IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GO OVER THERE, WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TILL THAT CONSTRUCTION'S DONE THROUGH THE CITY BEFORE WE START OURS, AT LEAST WE'LL KNOW, YOU KNOW, BUT BEFORE WE START OUR TRAY THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PARKING LOT OR, OR THE, THE BRIDGE, NOT NECESSARILY, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO PAY MORE BY BREAKING IT OUT MUCH MORE, 20%, AT LEAST 20% MORE ON THE, ESPECIALLY ON THE PARKING LOT.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
AND YOU GUYS PROBABLY HAVE ONE, I CAN'T THINK OF ONE OFF HAND WHERE A TRAIL DOES GO RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE.
UM, MY OLD HOUSE, HE USED TO BACK UP TO LOST CREEK PARK AND, AND EVERYTHING WENT RIGHT THROUGH IT.
AND THEN AROUND IT, WHICH ANYTIME YOU WALKED UNDERNEATH IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE BUZZING, A LOT OF TIMES IN THE MORNINGS, YOU GET THE FALL GOING IN AND PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT.
AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE KIND OF WALK QUICKLY.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE ARE GONNA FEEL COMFORTABLE AT SOMETHING.
SO I'M A LITTLE HESITANT TO SAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE.
AND DO IT TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA USE IT.
THEN, YOU KNOW, I I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF LAW.
I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT CENTER POINT, SEE IF THEY HAVE CONTACTED, IF THEY HAVE A DATE THAT THEY'LL THROW OUT THERE.
I MEAN, IF THEY'RE STILL, IF THEY PUT AN AUGUST ONE DATE ON IT.
UM, HOW, HOW CERTAIN ARE THEY? I MEAN, IF THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT'S AUGUST PLUS OR MINUS 90 DAYS, I'M KIND OF WAITING I'M WITH KURT ON THIS.
AND WHETHER THAT'S TWO, THREE MONTHS, THIS IS A 2020 MOBILITY BOND PROJECT.
SO I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY'S GOING TO GET UPSET IF WE DELAY A LITTLE BIT ON THIS STUFF.
IT'S NOT LIKE WEST AIRPORT AND KIRKWOOD WHERE WE WERE SPENDING MONEY IN A 28, 20 17 ON A 2007 BOND PROJECT.
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DANG NEAR A MILLION BUCKS.THEY DIDN'T MIND IN EITHER WITH THE COST THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH SOME OF THE BIDS THAT ARE COMING BACK.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE UPSET WITH THE DELAY ON THE LICE.
DANIEL, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? LET'S DO THAT THEN.
AND GET BACK WITH CENTER POINT ASKED FOR IF THEY'VE GOT A NEW OR ANY IDEA WHEN THEY'LL BE ACTUALLY STARTING CONSTRUCTION IN THIS AREA AND THIS AREA.
AND THEN WOULD THERE BE CONCERN IF WE WENT NOT OVER THE PIPELINE, BUT WITHIN THAT EASEMENT AREA, 10 FEET, 15 FEET, WHATEVER IT IS, KINDER MORGAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'D EVER EVEN GET A RESPONSE FROM THEM.
RICK, I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD GET A RESPONSE FROM KINDER MORGAN NOW THAT THE RESPONSE IS VERY LIKELY TO BE NO, WHEN WE DID OUR RECLAIMED WATER LINE AND WE HAD TO CROSS THAT WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO WORK ON THAT LINE UNTIL THAT GUY SHOWED UP AND GOT OUT OF HIS PICKUP TRUCK AND, AND WE'VE GOT PICTURES, MAYBE ONE THAT WALL OUT THERE, THAT GUY WAS THERE.
AND IF HE WENT TO LUNCH, WE DIDN'T WORK.
I MEAN THAT'S AND YOU KNOW, AND IT'S GOOD FOR THEM.
I MEAN, GUYS, I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE 30 INCH PIPE, I'LL BLOW A BIG HOLE IN THE GROUND.
IT'S A CONSENSUS THEN WE'RE JUST GOING TO LET RICK GO AHEAD AND TOUCH BASE, SEE WHAT YOU COME BACK WITH.
AND, UM, HOPEFULLY I'LL HAVE SOMETHING BY THE DECEMBER MEETING.
I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW.
CAUSE I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT PARKING LOT IN.
I WANT TO GET THAT IF WE CAN DO THE BRIDGE, IT'S JUST IN THE COUNTY, THE 20% BITE IS.
AND IF YOU DIDN'T HEAR MY, MY TITLE IS VOLUNTEER PROJECT MANAGER.
WELL WITH THAT, I THINK WE'VE COVERED A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF TONIGHT.
UM, ROBERT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, FOR BEING HERE AND, UM, CLARIFYING SOME STUFF AND, AND, AND FOR COMING PREPARED.
UH, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM ME, WHICH IS A JOURN KELLY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON A GERMAN? NO.
THIS IS, UH, THIS WAS A GOOD MEETING.